OldSchoolSnapper

If true, I'm relieved just for his psyche, the guy has overcome enough already. Don't think we can overcome Parsons, but we can hope he's back midseason in '26, I guess.

He's a good offensive coordinator playing a terrible HC and yesterday's infirmary will keep him here another season. Yay.

I have to wonder how anyone can downplay the loss of Parsons, I genuinely wonder if said people watched the games or just saw highlights/dropped in. On key passing downs, there were instances where they sent 3 guys on him to just get him out of the play. If you watched almost any snap where he's 1 on 1, he was literally unblockable and even games like yesterday where he didn't have any sacks, he is still influencing the QB on nearly every snap. He is the entire reason you can get by with the scrub corners we are trotting out there. Without him those guys were roasted and they will continue to be roasted. I've never seen a player close space on a QB running to the edge like Parsons did. He ran like a wide receiver. Imagine for a second we never traded for Parsons - you really think they can overcome the loss of Wyatt, Slaton and Clark from last year's defense, at the same time? There is no way. I will agree though that when Watson went down I assumed his season was over and we were probably toast. He is very clearly the best WR we have, but he just cannot stay on the field to save his life. Maybe Belichick or Reid could scheme his way out of this. MLF definitely can't. Even if no one else had been seriously hurt and we just had Tom hobbling for a few weeks, that alone is a huge injury.

The Bears at least did something we haven't done all year, smashed a crappy team instead of letting them hang around the entire game or worse, actually losing. I liked the Bears to win round 2 even before this disaster - just felt like the natural order - but I still thought we'd end up taking the division with them having to play SF and DET. Without Parsons, we will have problems containing Williams. He will be able to run around and buy time and beat guys to the corner. I think the 7 is a foregone conclusion. Is it a trip to Chicago or Philadelphia...I think the fork is in either way. Such a massively disappointing and depressing way to see this season unfold.

And 7 is pretty much 100% a 3rd game with the Bears.

Oh no. He doesn't. Soon he's going to be asking to meet and fight you at a local park.

I couldn't care less about draft spot, even if we had all our picks. The only time that would ever matter is you were tanking for #1 and Peyton Manning is coming out. I am almost certain we're making the playoffs. The division isn't even out of the picture. The Bears have been winning 1-pt games all year, that is not some unstoppable force. I think they're now the favorite, but it could still be us. The title hopes are shot though. There isn't a soul on this board who, prior to trading for Parsons, if I told you we'd be down Clark, Wyatt, Kraft, Watson, Nixon and Valentine are our top 2 CBs, that we're a contender. You'd have to think Golden had played like Randy Moss if that were the case. Just a wild course of events. At 23-14, I noticed the Rams were losing and I was thinking wow, we might actually be the front runner right now. Now I'm just waiting for the season to end.

I think this defense is going to get obliterated. We can say we were solid without Parsons last year, but we're worse now. Hobbs isn't close to what Stokes was last year. Clark is gone. Slaton is gone. Wyatt is gone. We have nothing along that DL right now, which was supposed to make those corners passable. It's just not going to work. We'll be bowing out in the Wild Card, probably to the Bears.

Dallas lol. The far more likely thing is Detroit winning out, we fall on our face and they're the 7th seed. Even that isn't likely. It's very hard for us to miss the playoffs. It's just that the playoffs are going to be depressing and lame.

Recency bias of what? This season? Nixon, Valentine and Hobbs have combined for 1 interception this season. Nixon grades the highest as the 28th corner per PFF. So a fringe bottom starter/nickel. Those are atrocious numbers for the pressure we generate. The safeties are decent, the corners suck. Of course you can't be great across the board, but when you spend like we did on Hobbs you better get a better result. To be clear I actually like him as a player, but we are trying to get him to be something he's not, a #1 corner. He cannot play on the outside. He doesn't have the talent.

Nah. This ship is at the bottom of the sea already. If it were just Watson? I'd pray Golden wakes up and believe. Parsons? That's a deal breaker. You can't bet the house on a single guy and lose that guy. He's the same as losing Love as far as title hopes go. You can still be a winning team, but you're not winning the championship you had your eyes on. Losing Tom for the year would probably be catastrophic on its own, too, at this stage of the season.

Hitting a couple points here: The Packers corners suck. It was a known problem before the season. It was everyone's concern before the Parsons trade. We have been masquerading Nixon as a CB1. He is a journeyman type that, sure, can play some ball, but he's a nickel starter that can thrive in the slot. We are trying to make him Jaire, and he's not. That's been passable with Parsons rushing. It was immediately exposed and will continue to be. Hobbs is possibly the worst move of Gute's career. The Chiefs will be OK. They are in that inevitable downturn that every star QB faces. Brady did, Rodgers did. They'll have to retool, Kelce is done, but Mahomes will do what the greats do and reshape his game a bit. And I think it's time to put the "spoiled fan" stuff to bed. You can look at gross total and wins craft the narrative you like, but I think you'd be very hard pressed to find a team that's won 7 MVPs at QB, played in 9 NFC Championships in that tenure...and walked out with 2 trophies. That's a brutal track record. They amounted to the same Super Bowl record as Ben freaking Roethlisberger. I'm the first to point out that's not the be-all, end-all, but that is some truly God-awful luck. Of course yeah, it's a lot better than being the Browns. But there is no denying that this state has had its heart absolutely ripped out consistently for most of 30 years. Putting some of those shortcoming under the microscope makes it all that much worse. They have lost in some truly gut wrenching ways, and today adds to the lore.

Just a horrible day to be a Packers fan. Can't think of a worse day during the regular season. Brutal. This will be a bitterly cold and dark Monday.

I genuinely hope we just flame out and miss the whole thing. I'm dead inside.

Not untrue, but they were drastically better with Watson, both today, and when he came back overall this season. There is zero chance whatsoever this team goes anywhere without Micah though. The goose is cooked. Just an absolutely catastrophic course of events tonight for this team and fan base. Could not have been any worse. And of course he didn't break his collarbone. He had to tear his ACL to put next year in jeopardy and raise questions as to whether or not he'll be the same guy.

I was pretty down on this team prior to that trade. I thought they were borderline playoff qualifier. Did very little to get better. I figured they'd be competitive and fun enough to watch, but not a real threat. Now take away Wyatt, Kraft, Watson, Tom? I'd have said they're 4-13.

The future of football, and we're halfway there, is playing to go 10-7 so that your key guys are available in January. Every sport has followed this trajectory. We lose this game without injuries and we're fine. But now the whole thing is donezo. Teams won't ignore that. I legit thought this team had a punchers chance even at 7 with those guys playing. That was likely traveling to Chicago round 1. That's winnable. Now I couldn't care less.

Asking a lot of the guy who signed Banks and Hobbs.

Mahomes isn't as dependent on burst and agility as an edge whose game is essentially reliant on those things. He's entering the stage of his career where he has to change how he's plays a bit, but he could still be really good for another 10 years. Parsons likely had a few great years left at best. He will spend 1 of those rehabbing an injury he's not likely to come back the same from. Today is catastrophic in every sense. There's no way around it. The rest of this year is lost and you just hope they salvage next year.

That's a great point lol. Guess we lost out on a backup LT that would get piledrived for 3 years.

The Bucks, Packers and Badgers are done for at least 3 years. With the Brewers you can either give up because the league is broken, or appreciate that they win games ridiculously consistently in a league where they should be going 40-122, and just have a fun summer.

It was more like 5 minutes. I've never seen anything like that before outside of Rodgers getting hurt which happened much earlier in the season before you started to believe.

Not gonna lie, this was looking every bit the statement game you were looking for until everything went classic Wisconsin sports. Road, hostile, substantial lead. Those taking the copium will point out the flaws of the team, but this was as good of a chance as we've had at the Super Bowl since winning it. Just an absolutely soul crushing afternoon. Guess I'll go to Avatar 3 next Saturday or something. This absolutely sucks.

The flop this team was heading for a month ago looked like it might at least get him canned. The second-worst part about today is that it buys him at least another year. Just glanced at Reddit to see people saying we should lose the last 4 to get a better draft pick. They must not realize how we got Micah... We are toast. Next year is a sitting duck season. Matt will get fired and we get to watch Micah do a Yelich impression for a bit. What a mess. I was literally thinking that we were a contender as Love was dropping back for that throw that ended Watson's season. I won't blame them, they took the chance everyone's been clamoring for, but of course since we're Wisconsin and not Boston this is the result. Whatever.

Yeah no. It's never the same as a playoff loss. But this is arguably the worst day of regular season Packers football of my life.