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He'll get another MLB shot next, but better off with someone else... He makes a decent 4th OFer right now so someone will give him a shot to win CF or off the bench if he can't improve.

I was on vacation the last week and not paying attention to the stats (but watching the trade updates). But as I said in another thread, I see the floor of Arcia and Brinson about the same (great D in SS/CF and league average hitting for their position). But I see Brinson's offensive upside as much higher than Arcia (say 900 vs. 850 OPS peak).

I think Alcides actually out played his prospect status. He ended up a better MLB player than I thought he would be at least. But as others have said, one reason Arcia is rated high is what could be, not what he is now. He comps to Escobar now because his floor is there. But his ceiling is more aligned with a 850 OPS hitter when he fills out and gets a bit more experience. But as with all prospects... who knows. I rated Brinson over Arcia in the last top 25 because both of their floors are similar (great D, league average hitter at their position), but I think Brinson's ceiling is loser to a Braun-type hitter.

Wily's Fastball charts from fangraphs: http://www.fangraphs.com/fgraphs/7738_P_FA_20160809.png Pretty stark difference in his 2015-2016 numbers and 2014 numbers. Last night looked more like 2014.

Certainly Pinto is behind Pina as a catcher, since Pina was the main starter at AAA and all reports have his defense worse than Pina's. If Pinto sticks around, I would guess he would be as a utility guy (PH, 1B, 3rd C).

Isan Diaz 2-4 is up to .280 now and a 864 OPS after a horrendous start to the season. Troy Stokes 2-4 is up to .270 and 767 OPS Lucas Erceg 2-4 is up to .307 over 866 OPS Trent Clark 1-4 is up to .245 and 866 OPS after a bad start. Diaz's turn around has been nothing short of amazing. June: .316 .393 .579 .972 ( 95 ABs) July: .327 .413 .645 1.058 (110 ABs) Aug: .419 .526 .903 1.430 ( 31 ABs) Lots of disappointments this year on performance, but these 4 have played extremely well as of late.

I'm amused by all the hate publicity Tebow gets. Especially since he could care less. Bat on Tim... bat on.

I don't know about that. You have one possible impact player (Arcia), a few ok players (Segura, Nelson), a couple still possible, and some BP guys. The cupboard wasn't bare, but it had a lot of ramen noodles... Hello???? Khris Davis???? He might not meet the definition of impact player, but he's hit one HR every 16.3 AB which is a better career rate than either Fielder or Braun and he was 13 on that list and he's developed into one of the premier power bats in all of baseball. Scooter Gennett's been essentially an everyday major league player since arriving in the big leagues and is cumulative 5.3 WAR player and he was 12th on the list. Thornburg's turned into not just any BP guy but a back end stud. Had they kept him starting, I'm pretty certain he'd be a decent starter too. If you look back at the Brewers prospect list 4 years from now, I guaranty you that many that are highly rated now will never pan out. For a team that at the time didn't have much respect as an organization, it was not a bad list at all. Yes, I could've listed out many more people in the "OK" bin. Khrush and Scooter were certainly meant to be included there. And to that point, I was one of Khrush's biggest supporters back in the day. But he still isn't anything more than MLB average. Not impact players. I disagree with Thornburg. He might have made a 5th SP, but makes a much better RP. Still, a bunch of SPs on the list turned into RPs, which is the wrong direction to build a team. Peralta might end up there too... Every organization, no matter how pathetic, generates MLB players. But if you create a bunch of 1.0 WAR/season players, you aren't going to get far. You need a healthy dose of 2.0-3.0 with a sprinkling of 5.0+ WAR/season players to get to the WS. Khrush and Scooter are both ~1.0-1.5 (peak at 2.0) WAR players. Nice, but not impact players. And as someone else stated, replacing better players, thus decreasing the team WAR overall.

I don't know about that. You have one possible impact player (Arcia), a few ok players (Segura, Nelson), a couple still possible, and some BP guys. The cupboard wasn't bare, but it had a lot of ramen noodles...

As I was doing my ranking, I came across the BF ranking sheet when I was running it 4 years ago. I thought it would be nice to see how far we have come: 1 Jean Segura 2 Tyler Thornburg 3 Wily Peralta 4 Jimmie Nelson 5 Johnny Hellweg 6 Hunter Morris 7 Taylor Jungmann 8 Clint Coulter 9 Jose Pena 10 Victor Roache 11 Scooter Gennett 12 Tyrone Taylor 13 Khris Davis 14 Hiram Burgos 15 Orlando Arcia 16 Mitch Haniger 17 Logan Schafer 18 Mark Rogers 19 Chris McFarland 20 Jed Bradley 21 Cameron Garfield 22 Drew Gagnon 23 Caleb Gindl 24 Damien Magnifico 25 Nick Bucci 26 Taylor Green 27 Jose Pena 28 Yadiel Rivera 29 Jorge Lopez 30 Michael Reed 31 Ruben Ozuna 32 Gian Rizzo 33 Santo Manzanillo 34 Cody Scarpetta 35 Kentrail Davis 36 Zach Quintana 37 Edgardo Rivera 38 Josh Prince 39 Fautino De Los Santos 40 TJ Mittelstaedt 41 Alan Williams 42 Jorge Ortega 43 Kyle Heckathorn 44 Nick Ramirez 45 Adam Giacalone 46 Eric Arnett 47 Jim Henderson 48 Jesus Sanchez 49 Jason Rogers 50 Tommy Toledo 51 Max Walla 52 Brooks Hall 53 Tyler Wagner 54 Eduard Reyes 55 Andy Moye 56 David Goforth 57 Mike Walker 58 Chadwin Stang 59 Carlos Belonis 60 Jacob Barnes 61 Juan Santiago 62 Stosh Wawrzasek 63 Ben McMahan 64 Jeff Bianchi 65 Seth Harvey 66 Milton Gomez 67 Angel Ortega 68 Leonard Lorenzo 69 Elvis Rubio 70 Mike Strong 71 Eric Marzec 72 Jose Sermo 73 Casey Medlen 74 Carlos Sosa 75 Osmel Perez 76 Josh Stinson 77 Daniel Meadows 78 Shawn Zarraga 79 Michael Schaub 80 Sean Halton 81 Brock Kjeldgaard 82 Taylor Wall 83 Austin Blaski 84 Brandon Kintzler 85 Brandon Macias 86 Rob Wooten 87 Donovan Hand 88 Malcolm Dowell 89 Alfredo Rodriguez 90 Brian Garman 91 Matt Miller 92 Carlos Pena

1 Lewis Brinson 2 Orlando Arcia 3 Isan Diaz 4 Josh Hader 5 Luis Ortiz 6 Phil Bickford 7 Corey Ray 8 Trent Clark 9 Brett Phillips 10 Gilbert Lara 11 Cody Ponce 12 Jorge Lopez 13 Marcos Diplan 14 Kodi Medeiros 15 Brandon Woodruff 16 Jacob Nottingham 17 Monte Harrison 18 Lucas Erceg 19 Devin Williams 20 Corbin Burnes 21 Miguel Diaz 22 Freddy Peralta 23 Demi Orimoloye 24 Jake Gatewood 25 Tyrone Taylor 26 Clint Coulter 27 Manny Pina 28 Victor Roache 29 Mario Feliciano 30 Brent Suter 31 Chad McClanahan 32 Adrian Houser 33 Braden Webb 34 Aaron Wilkerson 35 Nathan Kirby 36 Wei-Chung Wang 37 Michael Reed 38 Franly Mallen 39 Malik Collymore 40 Kyle Wren 41 Troy Stokes 42 Garrett Cooper 43 Dustin Demuth 44 Jordan Yamamoto 45 Trey Supak 46 Damien Magnifico 47 Nate Griep 48 Javier Betancourt 49 Gabe Garcia 50 Nash Walters 51 Taylor Williams 52 Max McDowell 53 Payton Henry 54 Mitch Ghelfi 55 Angel Ventura 56 Bubba Derby

Throwing out runners is also heavily dependant on his pitchers. Seems like 3-4 years ago we had a ton of pitchers that were slow in their delivery. And people ran wild on them. No idea if that applies to Susac but worth noting

It wouldn't surprise me to trial Pina this year and go with Pina/Susac tandem next year.

I think our schedule is very tough the rest of the year too. Not sure where i read it, but our first half had a low difficulty of schedule and the second half is harder.

x10!

Same island, so distant relatives at least.

Feliciano relatives? At 103 in July, I'd guess it was cloudy.

A couple years ago, the late teens and high 20s on our lists were some very long shot type players. This year, you will have legit MLB starter prospects there. I came up with 50+ players pretty easily on that depth chart.

No help for your particular situation. But I live in WI and work in MN. My employer will only withhold MN taxes and makes me manage the WI side. But I agree that they shouldn't have even touched WI taxes for this. Nice severance gift.

2016 9th round pick Trey York has reached base in 22 of his 23 games and owns a .316/.454/.447 slash line. Not bad for a underslot senior sign.

Ahhh crud. Say hi to Taylor Williams and Nathan Kirby...

Them Hodags love them some Brewers!

I would guess that brewers will give him another year at least at C to improve before moving him off. The errors an anomaly based on his career. Certainly, PB and CS% are systemic issues.

I'd say you need a balance. A headliner with some backups. No way is it one MiLB guy. CC trade is a good reason why. There are no can't miss minor leaguers. If you need to add someone (Fiers) on our side to make it happen, you still have a safer trade.