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If there is any organizational plan to work against Weeks's 2015 vesting option, you can be certain that Roenicke will have strict orders to follow from Melvin. Then there is really no need to keep playing Weeks at all.

I need to say this, but now that Gennett was called up (thanks Doug Melvin!) RR wont be under any pressure to keep Weeks in the line-up due to the money he's owed. Meaning if RR keeps playing Rickie Weeks the blame should be squarely on him and not Doug Melvin.

If they do he should be fired.

You have no clue if he is eventually going to be a utility man or a regular starter in the Majors. No clue at all. How about we let him play some in the Majors before we act like we know what he will do. So many people here are posting that he is this, he isn't that, but in all reality, it is asinine to come to any kind of judgement until the guy suits up and plays. It almost seems that there are those here who are practically rooting against him. I'm sure that isn't the case, but none of us know anything for sure. The way people are talking, they have magic future seeing crystal balls. I agree that it's asinine, and that's why I spoke up. It's not that they are rooting against him. However, I do believe that many here and elsewhere seem to think that just because a scouting report says one thing that must mean it will happen that way. Which is a false way to look at it. The wait and prove me wrong approach is the best way to make an educated determination on what a players ceiling is. Sometimes like in the case of Carlos Gomez it takes an adjustment at the plate to finally live up to expectations. This game is full of adjustments and when a player makes a good adjustment it can totally change a players projection or ceiling, and leave some scratching their heads.

Most fans on this site are fully aware of the scouting projection on Scooter "Ryan" Gennett. However, the posters with the most experience here on this site are wise enough to wait on judging a player (calling him a untility man or starter) until we see what he can do in the majors over an extended period of time.

You have no clue if he is eventually going to be a utility man or a regular starter in the Majors. No clue at all. How about we let him play some in the Majors before we act like we know what he will do. Well he's not a utility player because he no utility, just like Eric Farris, as he's a 2B only. He doesn't have the arm the for the left side of the IF so it's 2B or bust. Agreed.

Thanks to Estrada the Brewers won't get no hit tonight. That's a plus!

You have no clue if he is eventually going to be a utility man or a regular starter in the Majors. No clue at all. How about we let him play some in the Majors before we act like we know what he will do.

You'd be surprised how many fans go to the games just to see these young prospects who are the future of the team. I bet at least 50. It has to be in the thousands. Younger ball players are more exciting to watch at the MLB level. They hustle everything out and play twice as hard as the guys who are FA or making million of dollars. It's also exciting to see them do well when they first get called up. You root for them to do well, and when they do you cheer twice as loud as anybody else, because they are the future and will be on this team for at least 5 years. Just look at Segura. Many fans come to watch this kid play instead of choosing staying home even though the Brewers are out of it.

You'd be surprised how many fans go to the games just to see these young prospects who are the future of the team.

This is good move to get Scooter some playing time in the majors looking forward to next season when the Brewers could very well be in contention. Week's days are numbered and right now Gennett is the 2B man of the future for the Brewers over anybody in the system. It's the first week in June, so the fact that the Brewers waited to call him up means we control him for another year I think. This will also help with attendance depending on how well he does.

Should Hellweg and Nelson continue to pitch well in the minors they will be called up this year at some point, and they have the potential to be really good. That could potentially really help to improve our SP staff. It will also likely make a pitcher or two expendable in a trade at mid-season like Estrada, and Fiers days are numbered until he's out of the rotation for good anyways.

Oh, hogwash. I could find minor league players to fill out the rotation. Is there a reason why Jimmy Nelson isn't on the 40 man roster and Mike Fiers is? It doesn't make any sense to me at all. Just thinking about it makes me wonder what the Brewers front office is doing. Mike Fiers is getting way too much TLC from the front office.

I'm so hungry and in the mood right now for some ballpark food it's not even funny. I'll be there in first week of July. I usually before every Brewers game eat at George Webb's. It's tradition. However, this time I'll probably do both. Brats, hot dogs, and Loaded Nachos sound really good to me.

No Adam, the idea is that these two teams have been lousy already and have already torn down their ML players and turned them in to the All Prospects team Mustache is oohing and Ahhing over. And part of being able to do that is to literally have No ML talent on your ML team say for 1st-3rd year players who haven't reach Arb yet. It's laughable to me that Houston/Miami are allowed to operate below 40mil in team payroll. I'm pretty sure they will have revenue sharing sent their way each at or above 40mil without a Single Paying Fan watching a home game! Where is that money put in to on the Ballclub? If the team doesn't spend as much money as they are to get in Revenue Sharing then they shouldn't have any money sent to them. It should be forfeited back. Back to the comparisons. I just don't agree comparing the Minor Clubs of two teams that just dealt away ML talent for Propsects in return. Yes Miami has Fernandez missed pick by Milw. Yes Houston has Correa from a #1 draft pick the season after we went to the League Championship Series. Then you mix in the guys they traded for and yeah their minors are better than ours. I don't think you can compare the minors to teams who went bellyup with trade dealing/Offseason trade. Trading away ML players for Prospects in the last 2 years without being in the Playoffs. You want to compare the Rangers to Milw, sure that's on equal ground. But Losing teams who've traded for the future already and had successful 2011 drafts it's just not even going to remotely be close comparing our club to theirs. The truth is 2010/2011 may go down as worst picks in back to back seasons ever by the club in comparison to the players selected around and after Covey/Jungmann/Bradley. And no one should be left in the organization responsible for those draft picks. FWIW, We like to hoot and Holler at Tampa but they have zero 1st picks playing for the ML club since 2007 draftee David Price. And only Taylor Guerrieri in 2011 is looking to join the club any time soon as a solid pick. They got their Prospects from the Shields Trade, the Garza Trade, and Enny Romero was a Latin Signee. After them the 1st round picks none of them are top 100 propects nor appear any better than our picks. We've hung around the .500 level the last few seasons now so we haven't traded away players for Prospect Talent...Outside of Grienke last year. and Segura in return became an immediate ML player vs. sitting in the Minors to be oohed and ahhed about as a top prospect for a couple years. We've traded for players and not traded for prospects it leaves us where we are. Miss a couple drafts Rogers/Covey/...etc. yeah we're barron of top prospects. I'm not defending Melvin or Seid or anyone. Just not a fan of this comparison in topic as basically, to be where Houston/Miami are today, we'd have to give back the 2011 season have traded away our ML Players in 2010/2011/2012 or this offseason for that matter to be where they are today. And succeeded in what amounts to our 2011 draft picks vs failed. After this season/offseason and where we stand in Prospect land is when I can take it seriously. What comes to us from Trades/ How our 2012 picks progress that evaluation relates more importantly to me. 2010/2011 is a huge Failure. But with Roache/Coulter/Haniger/Taylor progress and our return in trades the outlook can be drastically different at this point next season. I mean think about Oscar Taveras. he was 97th? ranking in pre-2012? Then had a big year leaped to #3. What's to stop Roache/Taylor at least seeing some kind of leap like that with exceeded expectations? I'll end my rant. I enjoy comparing Minors among teams, one because it's a headstart look in to who's the future in Baseball. Just comparing the State of our franchise to two teams who've torn their ballclubs about.... Well, lets compare the teams when Braun/Gomez/Hart/Gallardo/Estrada/Lohse/Lucroy/ARam/Weeks are all traded away leaving us with Segura to be the Face of our Franchise. That's what the left over equivalent would be to Houston/Miami state of the Minors. I get that we have MLB pieces that we could flip for prospect talent, but none of that changes the fact that there are teams that DO have good MLB players and still have a really great farm system, better than Houston's or Florida's. Having a great team and great prospects aren't mutually exclusive, and you don't need to draft high to accumulate a great farm. I don't agree that you can't compare the two. I would only say you can take into consideration that one farm has been aided by a fire sale, but again, there's still plenty of good minor league systems that haven't. As far as Coulter and Roache, it's far too early to evaluate them, and they could take a big leap, but the early returns aren't encouraging at all. Combine that with Seid's track record, I'd say bust is more likely than boom right now. The best young guys on our team (Segura, Gomez), were never even in our system at all. That's not encouraging. Of the trade bait you listed, Weeks is worth nothing, I doubt Estrada is worth much, Gallardo's trade value is declining with every start, Lohse and Ramirez may possibly bring something but we'll be required to eat a good piece of contract, and Hart will need a great month after he returns to have any reasonable value. Braun or Gomez would be worth a ton, but they don't have the guts to trade either. Any reliever on our team would be fair game as far as I'm concerned. Given Aoki's age I wouldn't at all shy away from dealing him in a rebuild. Depending on how serious the Brewers are about rebuilding Gomez could very well be traded depending on the return. To say the Brewers don't have the guts to do it right now is probably accurate, however when the Brewers management realizes that the season is already over with 3 months into the season, perceptions and plan of actions can without question change. The only two players that I can safely say that the Brewers will not trade is Ryan Braun and Segura. That's it.

When I see that 88 million payroll that we have this year and I see our record I'm past the point of being upset and angry, I'm thinking that we must be miss managing large portions of the payroll by putting it towards things that we don't need to. Mainly the offense. I'd like to see the Brewers dump some more salary like 20 million or more and instead of spending that extra money on the 25 man roster, I'd like to see them use it to expand their presence internationally. I want to see them invest a ton of money internationally and combine that with the top draft picks that they will likely receive this next season, and perhaps the year after. Perhaps in order to do this we need to get rid of Doug Melvin and have a new GM establish a new scouting director who is known for having success internationally and domestically. I do think that expectations were really high heading into this season for Mark A and Doug Melvin and the fact that they have come up so short of those expectations that will be enough for Mark A to say enough is enough and it's time for a new smarter approach and fire Doug Melvin. An approach that starts with doing a much better job drafting pitching.

There's no way he will be up till after 1st week in June for contractual reasons.

I'm already looking forward to seeing the "Jesus Saves" signs in Miller Park when Sanchez is our eventual closer LOL.. That would be the best ever, actually. No one could beat that.

What is with Doug Melvin and Canadian players?

To me, a 65 win team is not any different than a 75 win team. There is no added pleasure in winning those extra 10 games. So if a team is destined to be under .500, then they should really cut bait. A 65 win team and a 75 win team are different. I'd rather be the 65 win team because you can get a higher draft pick. I got a chuckle out of this. Thanks.

A 15 game winning streak maybe. A 30 game winning streak? No, not at all. We are just going to have to agree to disagree on this. We aren't getting anywhere.

2013 is turning into a nightmare.

We'll I was making a point in that this team can't go on a 30 game winning streak, because that would mean they have the starting pitching, which they don't. That would also mean that had a good team. You did contradict your opinion without knowing it.

Don't say that unless you provide a picture. Pirates games are blacked out in my area.

You'd have much more of a point if you took out the bold. It contradicts your point, because if this team went on a 30 game winning streak, they'd actually have a good team, both on the pitching side and offensive side.