No Adam, the idea is that these two teams have been lousy already and have already torn down their ML players and turned them in to the All Prospects team Mustache is oohing and Ahhing over. And part of being able to do that is to literally have No ML talent on your ML team say for 1st-3rd year players who haven't reach Arb yet. It's laughable to me that Houston/Miami are allowed to operate below 40mil in team payroll. I'm pretty sure they will have revenue sharing sent their way each at or above 40mil without a Single Paying Fan watching a home game! Where is that money put in to on the Ballclub? If the team doesn't spend as much money as they are to get in Revenue Sharing then they shouldn't have any money sent to them. It should be forfeited back. Back to the comparisons. I just don't agree comparing the Minor Clubs of two teams that just dealt away ML talent for Propsects in return. Yes Miami has Fernandez missed pick by Milw. Yes Houston has Correa from a #1 draft pick the season after we went to the League Championship Series. Then you mix in the guys they traded for and yeah their minors are better than ours. I don't think you can compare the minors to teams who went bellyup with trade dealing/Offseason trade. Trading away ML players for Prospects in the last 2 years without being in the Playoffs. You want to compare the Rangers to Milw, sure that's on equal ground. But Losing teams who've traded for the future already and had successful 2011 drafts it's just not even going to remotely be close comparing our club to theirs. The truth is 2010/2011 may go down as worst picks in back to back seasons ever by the club in comparison to the players selected around and after Covey/Jungmann/Bradley. And no one should be left in the organization responsible for those draft picks. FWIW, We like to hoot and Holler at Tampa but they have zero 1st picks playing for the ML club since 2007 draftee David Price. And only Taylor Guerrieri in 2011 is looking to join the club any time soon as a solid pick. They got their Prospects from the Shields Trade, the Garza Trade, and Enny Romero was a Latin Signee. After them the 1st round picks none of them are top 100 propects nor appear any better than our picks. We've hung around the .500 level the last few seasons now so we haven't traded away players for Prospect Talent...Outside of Grienke last year. and Segura in return became an immediate ML player vs. sitting in the Minors to be oohed and ahhed about as a top prospect for a couple years. We've traded for players and not traded for prospects it leaves us where we are. Miss a couple drafts Rogers/Covey/...etc. yeah we're barron of top prospects. I'm not defending Melvin or Seid or anyone. Just not a fan of this comparison in topic as basically, to be where Houston/Miami are today, we'd have to give back the 2011 season have traded away our ML Players in 2010/2011/2012 or this offseason for that matter to be where they are today. And succeeded in what amounts to our 2011 draft picks vs failed. After this season/offseason and where we stand in Prospect land is when I can take it seriously. What comes to us from Trades/ How our 2012 picks progress that evaluation relates more importantly to me. 2010/2011 is a huge Failure. But with Roache/Coulter/Haniger/Taylor progress and our return in trades the outlook can be drastically different at this point next season. I mean think about Oscar Taveras. he was 97th? ranking in pre-2012? Then had a big year leaped to #3. What's to stop Roache/Taylor at least seeing some kind of leap like that with exceeded expectations? I'll end my rant. I enjoy comparing Minors among teams, one because it's a headstart look in to who's the future in Baseball. Just comparing the State of our franchise to two teams who've torn their ballclubs about.... Well, lets compare the teams when Braun/Gomez/Hart/Gallardo/Estrada/Lohse/Lucroy/ARam/Weeks are all traded away leaving us with Segura to be the Face of our Franchise. That's what the left over equivalent would be to Houston/Miami state of the Minors. I get that we have MLB pieces that we could flip for prospect talent, but none of that changes the fact that there are teams that DO have good MLB players and still have a really great farm system, better than Houston's or Florida's. Having a great team and great prospects aren't mutually exclusive, and you don't need to draft high to accumulate a great farm. I don't agree that you can't compare the two. I would only say you can take into consideration that one farm has been aided by a fire sale, but again, there's still plenty of good minor league systems that haven't. As far as Coulter and Roache, it's far too early to evaluate them, and they could take a big leap, but the early returns aren't encouraging at all. Combine that with Seid's track record, I'd say bust is more likely than boom right now. The best young guys on our team (Segura, Gomez), were never even in our system at all. That's not encouraging. Of the trade bait you listed, Weeks is worth nothing, I doubt Estrada is worth much, Gallardo's trade value is declining with every start, Lohse and Ramirez may possibly bring something but we'll be required to eat a good piece of contract, and Hart will need a great month after he returns to have any reasonable value. Braun or Gomez would be worth a ton, but they don't have the guts to trade either. Any reliever on our team would be fair game as far as I'm concerned. Given Aoki's age I wouldn't at all shy away from dealing him in a rebuild. Depending on how serious the Brewers are about rebuilding Gomez could very well be traded depending on the return. To say the Brewers don't have the guts to do it right now is probably accurate, however when the Brewers management realizes that the season is already over with 3 months into the season, perceptions and plan of actions can without question change. The only two players that I can safely say that the Brewers will not trade is Ryan Braun and Segura. That's it.