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Provided they don't plan on a major overhaul, I'd be happy with a LaRoche signing. The years and AAV would obviously factor in, but just putting a left handed bat who walks about 14 pct of the time with some power at our worst offensive position would be a very nice upgrade for the Brewers. That coupled with what I believe will be a significant improvement from Segura and HOPEFULLY a successful surgery and recovery from Ryan Braun..and the Brewers could legitimately contend next year. If you could get .300/.370/.500 from Braun and even just .270/.320/.400 from Segura the offense would be a lot different next year. Add in threat from the left side and a guy who can give you 20-25 HR's(potentially 30 in Miller Park) and a good on base pct and that's about as good of an upgrade as I think the Brewers fans can reasonably hope for. There is also Khris Davis who has always walked at a very high clip until this year. I don't think Lucroy is going to regress too much, though obviously Ramirez is a question mark. But I really think the best hope for our offense isn't to revamp it, rather try to add a left handed 1st basemen and hope that you simply get more from Davis, Segura and Braun...and I don't think that's far fetched at all.

I'm sure most of us have perused past drafts and looked at players available when the Brewers picked. However that's really a terrible way to evaluate drafts. Especially if you're going to for some reason discount players picked later in the draft in order to do so. The 2009 draft was a successful one. Not a great one. It COULD have been had Mark Texeria gotten one less base hit, but he didn't. And Arnett was a good pick. Kentrail Davis was a guy with a lot of talent who looked like a potential top 15 pick coming into the year at Tennessee. Look at draft picks. Most 1st rounders end up being busts. I'm far more concerned with the totality of the draft than one round.

I don't think there are a lot of good hitters in baseball today. Too many dumb free swingers like Gomez in baseball today. Gomez has all of the talent in the world, but he lacks discipline and still gets fooled to easily. How many smart and truly good hitters are there in baseball today? I'm talking about guys that are smart enough to lay off junk pitches most of the time. Only a handful.... Even Braun even his prime was a little undisciplined. Prince, as awesome as he was, swung at a lot of junk. If Prince swung at a lot of junk, who in your opinion DIDN'T? It's really easy to watch baseball and be critical, it's a bit tougher standing in there vs 95 MPH fastballs and then having to adjust to a 87 MPH slider. Not sure if that makes all the hitters "dumb."

Just curious, have you ever lived in the southwestern part of the U.S.? And have you watched the ESPN 30-for-30 about Fernando Valenzuela? Funny how the people who live/lived in the southwestern U.S. think it adds value. Those who live/lived there know how important cultural identity is within the Hispanic community. Gallardo isn't even the best Mexican pitcher in baseball and you're comparing him to Fernando? One player came in and at 20 years old won a Rookie of the Year award, Cy Young, Silver Slugger and led his team to a WORLD SERIES. The other is 28 and is a average #3 pitcher. Sorry, I don't see what the two have to do with each other.

I was under the impression he was among the best in baseball defensively and a GG caliber defender.

1-Trade Carlos Gomez No set designation on what positions we get for him, whatever team is offering the most gets him. Obviously a legit front of the rotation pitcher would be a target/. 2-Pick up the option on Yo, then trade him. I believe he's worth one good though not top 50 prospect and another lower tier guy with good tools. 3-Pick up option on Ramirez and trade him if he opts in, make QO if he opts out. I don't think you're getting much at this point and price tag, but given the market, I think you can get something out of him. 4-Try to convince Braun to have surgery. And then move him to 1st. 5-Shop Broxton, but trading him is not a necessity. Eat 3-3.5 million if it gets the job done. 6-Definitely TRY to trade Garza. If I was the GM, the whole idea would be to build for 2017-18, and I really doubt Garza pitches more than 475 innings the next 3 years and further doubt he's a viable starting pitching option past that. On that one I'd eat maybe...8 million dollars? I think he's still got value and is a good pitcher, so MAYBE a team like the Yankees want him. 7-ATTEMPT to move Lucroy to 3rd. See if he can handle the job. If so, start Maldy, and play Luc at 3rd. I'd certainly consider trading Lucroy, but I'd prefer to do it in another year or two as you need some talent on the field. Of course if the offer blows you away... In all these trades I'd like to get back an Ariel Pena, Hellweg type. You get enough of those guys and you're going to come out with at least one or two who can develop. 8-I'd drop the payroll to 50-60 million over the next 2-4 years and try to save money for when we're able to compete. A "fund," or however you'd like to describe it similar to what the Packers have. This would of course kills us in terms of attendance, but Milwaukee fans are smart. I'd simply try to articulate what I'm trying to do, point 90 miles South and hope they're patient and we can still draw 2-2.5 a year. 9-I'd pick out which year looks the most promising among the next couple and sign every international free agent we could, overpaying if necessary. 10-12 players for 20-25 million dollars one year and then sitting out the next year is a better investment IMO than Lohse and Gallardo for 2 years. 10-Perhaps this should rank ahead of the last several, but I'd pay whatever necessary to get the best scouting director as frankly, his job is more important than mine in terms of long term success. 11-Fire RR and the entire staff and try to find a minor league coach who has done a really good job at developing talent. Let the coach and players grow together. Roenicke might be that guy, but I question if he'd be truly invested in 3-4 years of likely losing 90+ games. There is a legitimate chance the Brewers could contend next year. They win the division if they just win 40 pct of their games over their two exceptionally poor stretches. So it's possible the Brewers could come back and up the payroll a bit more, spend 110 million and maybe we move a couple pieces around, Segura comes back and things work out better next year. BUT...how long can a small market team, even with a payroll in the middle of the league really expect to content when you go into the season hoping that several guys over 35 years old perform? There is a TON of risk to a move like this. In 3-4 years you might be out of a job and the franchise might spend the next 20 years floundering like it did prior to Mark A taking over for Wendy. Of you could catapult the team into an era like the Rays have experienced, expect whereas the Rays have to cut their payroll to ~50 million, we'd be able to spend 110 million and keep guys like David Price. Our farm system could easily be a top 15 system next year and a top 5 system in the next couple years from the Gomez, Gallardo, Lohse, Garza and potential Lucroy trade down the road. And I'd rather go for a player like Buxton and end up with a guy who tops out at A+ than go for a lower risk player and have him become a big league player. Lineup next year 1B-Cark/Rogers/Braun when healthy 2B-Gennett-Let him face lefties. Either he develops and hits them like other really lefties have, or he's a career platoon player. But no reason not to give him the chance if we're blowing it up. SS-Segura-I still believe he's a sparkplug and AS caliber SS. 3B-I really have no idea. I'd look at all the "Ian Stewart," types that are available. In fact I'd do that at every position, but in particular at 3rd. I'd LIKE to work Lucroy in here if that experiment works out at all. C-Lucroy/Maldy. LF-Khris Davis-I think he can develop into a .280/.360/.475 type hitter. Still AWFUL arm out there. He's a guy I'd trade in a heartbeat after a big year, but for now he's good. CF-Logan Schafer-I still believe he can be a good major league player. RF-Parra/Braun. See how Braun handles 1st and if he's healthy. Parra is a guy I'd trade during the year. Pitching Staff- SP-Peralta, Nelson, Fiers set in stone. Hellweg, Pena, Jungman, Bradley, Cravy, Smith, Thornburg(if healthy)-Let all of them compete. RP-That's the last part of the team you worry about when you're not planning on contending. Next year would be REALLY rough, but in the following year you could see position players like Taylor, Arcia, Rivera among others and pitchers like Wagner, Williams, Goforth. But it's obviously going to take 3-4 years before we really start getting impact talent to the big leagues. So...basically, I'd do what the Cubs are doing, but I think we are in better positions than they were when they started their rebuild, though they have a lot more money.

Nobody is saying he wasn't bad. How bad in certain areas is being exaggerated a bit, but either way, everyone agrees when he played 3rd base, he was very bad. But again, I just don't see much of a correlation between 3rd and 1st. The degree of difficulty in the average play at 1st is just so much lower than at 1st. I honestly don't think Corey Hart would have fared any better at 3rd, much like how most 1st basemen would be trainwrecks across the diamond. I'd hate to see him end up at 1st. Having an athletic 1st basemen is obviously an advantage, but I believe Coulter's athletic ability and arm would be wasted over there. I still think if they were willing to take their time with him, he could develop into a good catcher.

I just don't see that. I really don't. Braun is a better athlete than Prince and Braun's problem at 3rd was throwing the ball. 16 of his 26 errors were throwing the ball. How many bad throws were the result of not fielding the ball cleanly because he can't field a ground ball very well? He was bad at everything about fielding at 3B not just throwing. How many balls did he screw up that didn't count as errors? He fielding at 3B was historically bad. Range, throwing, fielding, everything. I don't know, I would guess very few were. The majority came on routine plays where he had plenty of time to make the throw or on balls he had to come in on. He was NOT historically bad at everything(in his rookie year). And his range was actually exceptional. Just his ability to get to the ball. People remember that he was a disaster as a whole, but forget many of the extraordinary plays he made going into foul territory to make plays, or other more difficult plays. Limit the long throws and he's fine.

I just can't wrap my head around this. Are we still operating on the assumption that because Braun played 3rd poorly, he couldn't play 1st? They're not even comparable positions. Braun could field his position decently. Certainly much better than Prince could have ever dreamed of if he played 3rd. He did have problems throwing the ball, mainly the routine plays, but Prince didn't have a very good arm either. Braun would have to work at it like anyone, but his failures at 3rd really don't translate to what he'd be required to do at 1st. And people forget, Braun made some incredible plays at 3rd and I think would have developed into a much better 3rd basemen had the Brewers given him the leeway they gave Weeks(which would have still made him a very bad 3rd basemen).

Both you and Bani1717 made a similar argument, and it's one that often pops up when talking about matters of security. Whatever we're doing is pointless because people who really want to kill people can just do it another way essentially. A-Terrorists do things to terrorize people. What do you think is gong to have a bigger headline, ______ from the Milwaukee Brewers shot dead on field, or fan killed outside stadium? Or how about the headline, "50 fans killed/wounded while defensless and packed together outside stadium waiting to get in". Well, feel free to come up with an idea to try and speed solve the problem about people congregating around Miller Park before games. However as anyone who goes to games knows there are often hundreds of people by the ticket window/waiting to get into games before the metal detectors. So there headline is just as possible now. This is akin to saying that since kids can be abducted on their way to school, why bother locking the school down and adding security measures. Perhaps it's because one has a higher responsibility of ensuring the safety of those in certain scenario's. The metal detectors have done very little to slow the process into the stadium. But...again, you ignore the essential point of my post. The argument is essentially, "if you can't stop all types of violence, why try to stop any?" Not to mention what I personally think is an irrational apples to oranges comparison. Have you been to the games with the metal detectors? They're not causing hour long(er) waits to get into the game. The congestion is pretty much the same. I'm also curious if someone did indeed attempt to kill 50 people outside the stadium while waiting in line, why then would they only try to kill one person inside the stadium. Finally, if you're looking for large groups of people, do you really think the entrance at a Brewers game is going to be their primary target? Well, what they do in prevention at this point is going to be purely speculation. But my thinking is if someone wants to pull off a organized "terrorist" attack you're right, they'll find a way around it. But while everyone's so worried about terrorists attacks since 9/11, the mass shootings by mentally unstable people has done far more damage INSIDE the United States. Just unhinged people who want to live in infamy. If a famous baseball player gets shot..or any baseball player that person's name is going to be synonymous with that player from there on out. Also...I'm thinking with our intelligence services, it's likely easier to identify and stop these large scale attacks that have been speculated about on here as opposed to one Jared Loughner type who nobody takes seriously until they snap and do something. Count the bodies dead from people with mental illness going on a killing spree since 9/11 vs the domestic terrorist attacks? So again, are the new safety measures going to stop some 24-type sleeper cell from carrying out an attack? No. But they may deter or stop the much more likely threat in Milwaukee, some guy with serious psychological problems from waking up one day and deciding to become famous for who he kills. And given the almost non-existent delay or inconvenience caused by them, I just don't get the blow back(or the over the top alternate scenarios about how ELSE people could be killed more effectively). Don't get me wrong, I'm a little embarrassed at how easily this country frightens in the post 9/11 world. Every threat is the worst threat and could end our way of life(some hyperbole there in some cases, but not in every case). We've got a new issue to be scared about each week, and I do worry that some use those fears to justify the loss of some freedoms. I'm just not seeing this being one of them. At WORST it's a very minor inconvenience that may add 5 minutes to getting into the game.

I think Duke for a 3 year 12 million dollar deal is very likely. K-rod is gone unless other teams look at this year as an aberration and is willing to come back for ~5 million, but I still think you'd be talking about 3 years and I wouldn't want to do that. Like every BP, next years could be the strongest we've had in a while, or it could be a bad one. If Henderson gets healthy and returns to form and Broxton repeats his performance this year, those two plus Jeffress and Thornburg give you 4 really good right handed relievers. Smith is a really good lefty in the pen, Duke is pretty good vs both lefties and righties and then you've got a lot of possibilities for the 7th spot, namely Nelson or Fiers. It's just as possible that Broxton blows up next year, Thornburg and Henderson aren't healthy, Duke leaves via free agency. But I'll still hope for a Henderson/Broxton/Jeffress/Thornburg/Smith/Duke/ BP with the final spot going to whomever has the strongest spring or doesn't get the last spot in the rotation. I do hope that Yo is traded as I think you could get a strong prospect for him. Our payroll has been closer to 110 this year, leaving out the insurance policies and other figures MLB uses to calculate payroll. Still very little flexibility with the commitments have next year assuming both Gallardo and Aram are back...and I think the Brewers would take both back. So we'd have to hope that everything that went right health wise this year went well next year as well, while also hoping that Segura bounces back with a big year, and maybe Braun can get healthy. I see a few positions we can reasonably hope for more from next year, LF, SS, RF and the BP, yet several positions we could see a big drop off. 3rd, 2nd if Gennett faces lefties all year long, C(even as good as Luc is, it'd be hard to duplicate this past year), CF. I wouldn't be surprised to see the same starting 8 that finish this year(assuming Clark finishes this year starter) start 2015, and almost the same rotation.

It sounds pretty simple when you read the details. The Nashville Sounds handled the situation in a very unprofessional way. Since when did having the "right," to do something mean it was inherently right to do it? Melvin continually asked if they were not going to renew the contract to let them know in time so they could plan accordingly. Seemingly out of the blue and without reason they decided to not renew the contract. Sure, that's their "right."

Both you and Bani1717 made a similar argument, and it's one that often pops up when talking about matters of security. Whatever we're doing is pointless because people who really want to kill people can just do it another way essentially. A-Terrorists do things to terrorize people. What do you think is gong to have a bigger headline, ______ from the Milwaukee Brewers shot dead on field, or fan killed outside stadium? B-They could shoot through the glass of the stadium? Yes, I suppose if you had someone who had access to a nearby building with a sight line and a sniper with a high powered weapon really wanted to......see where I'm going? Not all that likely. Bottom line, yes, there are other ways to kill people than by killing them with a gun or a knife inside a stadium, and you could "pass off a gun," outside the stadium...which would require multiple people and make it less likely. I still don't see that as a valid reason to dismiss the idea of metal detectors. It's a pretty minor inconvenience, and I don't know how you can say it won't stop something in the future. It's an easy thing to say, but there is simply no way to prove or disprove what would have happened in the future had the Brewers NOT taken this action.

This year, yes, but in years past they've put some rather pathetic players on the field and somehow everything keeps coming up Cardinals. That probably has more to do with the way they're coached to play baseball (i.e. Duncan's philosophy that Lohse says turned him around) than it has to do with arguing balls and strikes. I do think that LaRussa was good at getting under the opposing team/manager's skin with things like bean-ball wars and arguing everything, but I don't think that is the key to them winning their titles. Just my opinion, but I think little things like taking a few more pitches and not running into outs go a long way in adding wins over the course of a season. I would agree. They're similar to the Packers in their ability to substitute players and win games. They just have a mental edge on the rest of the division, ie, the Packers playing half their games without Rodgers and still beating the Lions and Bears, both of whom have a lot of talent. I don't recall them having many "pathetic players," on the field, but they do manage to win when things don't go well for them and most things go right for us.

Are you suggesting that people who can legally carry be allowed to carry on the premises of professional sporting events? yikes. I'm staying away from my political opinion on this one. I think that would deter attendance. People are uneasy with people around them openly carrying guns. That's not political, and I'm not saying it's right or wrong. They just are. Which is why many private businesses made rules when people were "exercising," their rights several months ago carrying large scary looking weapons into places like Starbucks or Chipolte. That's rather bold. You've not asserted that this is "mindless," that there is corruption involved and an agenda behind this(other than the obvious agenda of safety), the metal detectors don't work or rather are poorly tuned, we're less safe now. As if these are all facts. And you agreed that there must be some correlation between this and the body scanners at hospitals making the metal detectors expendable, so that's the only reason. As if this was the only way we could re-purpose metal detectors. I'm sure the metal detector business is just fine and that one(airport scanners) has little to do with the other(MLB implementing metal detectors).

No, I'm sure this is crony capitalism at it's finest. I'd bet anything those are new metal dectors paid for by a government grant. There are certain phrases that it seems people are using more and more now, regardless of context. "Crony capitalism." I'm not even sure how this would work in this case. Can there EVER be anything that's not political? Is it just possible because of threats to players MLB finally decided, "Hey, maybe we should do this so we don't look back and say...why didn't we do this," without there being some political agenda at work? Do you really think MLB is in bed with Big-Metal Detector-Business? What's the quid pro quo? Some people are genetically predisposed to have a conservative mind set. Not politically per say, but just those who are very upset over any and every level of change. That wasn't my experience at all. I was wearing Jeans, a button down shirt and a jacket and so like every other game, there was little for then to check, but the young lady I was with went through the same exact "search," she always did. Yes, I'm sure there are. There is no place anywhere that has 100 pct security. Does that mean then that you don't do anything because you can't cover everything? This isn't meant to stop the evil Batman villains from infiltrating the grounds crew and smuggling in a bomb. This is meant to stop a crazy person from entering a stadium with as many as 45K people in it on national TV and killing as many people as possible.

How is it smoke and mirrors? I really don't get what the RV's and Tour Buses have to do with anything. I've worried for a long time when there was going to be a shooting or something at a game. Either by one crazy person just trying to shoot innocent people, or a over the top, unstable fan taking a shot at a player. To me this made sense years ago. If you want to argue that this won't stop every type of potential danger, I don't believe anyone thought it would. But it might stop someone from getting into the game with a gun/knife or it might deter someone from even trying it.

We have way too much money already committed in contracts as well as needs to give someone like Stephen Drew even a 1 year deal for 5 million. That said, I still like Segura. I'm still confident he's the player he was last year. Not the first half, not the second half, just the end of the year numbers. He's also a spark plug for us, which I know for some people is an annoying term, but I think he is. When Segura's hitting well(which has been rare) this team does not struggle to score runs. I think bringing Aram back is a no-brainer for both sides. I think we might be forced to add a 2nd year if Aram declines his option, but that's a big risk for a 37 year old player who wants to continue to play 3rd base and has 16 million on the table. As much as I would like it, we're not likely going to trade Gallardo or Lohse, so we're going to have ~35 million in the starting rotation. I would like to bring back Duke next year(and even Gorz if he comes back cheap). Duke is going to command 2/8 probably. We're paying 10 million for Broxton next year. My guess is we'll try to sign K-Rod(and regret doing so if it's more than 2-3 for 10-15). I could go on, but the point is we're a veteran team with a high payroll already by our standards. Hoping that Segura can bounce back while continuing to allow Rivera and Arcia to develop and perhaps keeping Hector Gomez or Herrera(whomever earns the spot) on the team to spell Segura makes a lot more sense than replacing Seggy.

Very few players stick at the position they were drafted at, most of the HS kids are SS... as was Coulter before his transition to C. Coulter was a Catcher in High School. He played SS and 3B earlier on, but played catcher(primarily) since he was a Soph in HS. But to the original comment, we should start drafting players at positions they will actually play? How often are you going to draft a guy in the 1st round out of HS who played LF? If he's not a better athlete and defender than his own teams CF'er, RF'er, SS, 3B, then there isn't much of a chance he's going to be a viable big leaguer. There's absolutely nothing wrong with drafting a guy like Coulter IMO and giving him a couple years behind the plate. Again, I still believe if he hit .235/.315/.400 they'd leave him behind the plate and let him develop there. But with his bat as far along as it is, they obviously want to push him a bit quicker.

He has stone hands catching...how is he going to play an infield position? Try him in Of first. This is just not even true. I have not seen any scouting report that even comes close to stating this. Others who have seen Coulter play will probably also state that this is false. It's absolutely untrue. I believed strongly that Coulter would be able to become a good defensive catcher if he was given time. The fact is if he wasn't as good offensively, he'd probably be given more time to develop behind the plate. But, and I've said this since he was drafted, if they do move him, they should try him at 3rd base 1st. IF you're not going to give him the time to develop behind the plate because his bat is so advanced, at least try to maximize his value by moving him over to 3rd. It'll be ugly early on I'm sure, but he's got all the tools you need. And it's much easier to move him to 1B or LF if he doesn't become a major league caliber 3rd basemen. I guess I'm just baffled how someone who's watched the kid play thinks he's only capable of being a DH.

Seriously? Well...I guess there's an opening in the "all time great baseball player who makes absolutely no sense when talking about the game," category since Morgan is off ESPN. Fiers might end up being the one who ends up being impacted by this the most. Yes, I know Stanton got hurt badly, but Fiers was so upset and frankly looked so scared that this could have a big impact on the rest of his career. I think the Marlins were really getting worked up with the umpire, but if you're a pitcher who's completely frazzled over hitting a guy in the face and you're hearing screaming from the dugout you're going to think it's towards you. I think Fiers threw his arms up towards the Marlins as if to say, "c'mon, do you really think I'm trying to hit your guys," and at that point, after having their star player on the ground and another get hit up high AND to add insult to injury, to call both strikes, any gesture was going to set off the Marlins. I have no problem with how either side acted in this case. I don't think Gomez was hit on purpose and I don't think there should have been suspensions or fines at all.

How about just excusing it away as "part of the process?" Go back and look at the 1st round picks. Very few turn into impact players. Arnett showed all the tools to be a 1st round pick, especially a late 1st round pick when we drafted him. And Jungman's upside was as a #2. He was throwing in the mid 90's coming out and virtually everyone had him as a potential #2 starter. You talk OFTEN about not being happy with 2-3 WAR players and saying you want "impact pitchers," do you think Seid thought differently? Do you think anyone does? To suggest Arnett, Bradley, Jugnman for example didn't have "impact talent," at the time and or were safe picks is revisionist history using their results. And any credit you want for Jungman as you've pointed out several times you weren't a fan you lose for the relentless criticism of the Nelson selection simply because some scouting reports had Jeff Suppan listed as a comp(which again, for the record, 2nd most valuable pick in the 2nd round the year he was drafted behind Scott Rolen, and would have been the 7th most valuable 1st rounder behind the likes of Arod, Tori Hunter, Billy Wagner and company). Waaay too much is placed on the "perceived," ceiling of 1st round picks. I think Seid was unfairly judged based on the perceptions that some had on his philosophy early on. I also don't quite get the hangup on the left handers we have in our organization. I actually think we're just fine there. If Bradley had developed like many believed(he was a consensus top 10 prospect) we'd have our big lefty. As it is we have a number of intriguing young lefties. The draft is just such a crap shoot, as long as he can acquire talent like he has, it doesn't really matter where it comes from. We offer Rondon a bit more and Tex gets one fewer hit and we've got Mike Trout and Carlos Rondon in our organization right now and he probably has a job as a GM right now.

Well he was on the 40 man roster earlier this year, so the Brewers obviously thought he was close to being major league ready. Sometimes just changing teams and getting a new voice and different advice can help. Look at Jeffress. The Blue Jays certainly helped him in his throwing motion and yet he chose to leave and come full circle and return to the Brewers. As for Thornburg, Monty keeps saying the Brewers view Thornburg as a reliever, but what is that based on? I don't see any evidence the Brewers view him as their future closer or a reliever, rather it was the only spot he could contribute this year coming out of spring training. Roenicke has said that he believes Thornburg and Smith will get a shot to start "at some point in the future." That was back in April, so I can't find the quote off hand, but until hear otherwise, I'm going to assume that's the case.

For all of Monte's talent, baseball is his big ticket. Last season, he was the 49th ranked high school WR in the country by ESPN. 33rd by Rivals.com. Another site had him at 60th best WR, and the 375th best HS player. That pales next to being ranked 20 or 30 in all of baseball. And let's not forget the injury factor related to playing football. Plus, there's the $1.8 million guarantee he gets now. A mid-3rd round pick in this year's NFL draft makes about $3 million over four years - with about $600,000 guaranteed. Again, that assumes he gets drafted that high, and plays all four years of his contract. Four years of major league baseball will net you a minimum of about $2.5 million (and can be lots more). And beyond four years baseball players make significantly more than football players. The very best football players make about $20 million/year. Baseball has $30 million guys. Finally, baseball players play longer than football players. WRs in the NFL are often washed up by 30, when in baseball, you're playing some of your best ball. It also takes you about 4-5 years to get to the point where you are a major leaguer. Football players are drafted on tools and then handed a spot on a team if drafted high enough. A big physical WR'er like Harrison? And you're comparing apples to oranges. One ranking is ranking the best CFB recruits while the other is ranking the best professional baseball prospects. There are a lot of 5'8 spread WR'ers on that list that would rank well behind a Harrison when it comes to NFL potential given his size, frame and speed. And the highest paid baseball player is making 25 million this year. Given the NFL's CBA, the top paid players will be making 30 million in short order. Of course baseball is easier on your body, longer period of time to earn, and he was guaranteed money right now. I just think you're overselling the case with Harrison. I think there was a good chance he developed into a 1st round caliber WR'er. But....he chose Baseball. Good for us.

I would argue that Seid had more success with later round picks than most GM's. Later round picks almost never have an impact while we've had guys like Khris Davis, Gennett, Fiers and others succeed and play important roles. I also disagree with the narrative that he bypassed high ceiling type players. History seems to have been re-written, and it comes from the Jungman/Bradley draft, both of whom were believed to have very high ceilings coming out of the draft. Bradley perhaps even more so given his performance in the Cape league the year before, and at one point was considered a top 5 pick.