aintbize...I'm not saying to temper your enthusiasm. I absolutely love seeing them do well. I just view this year as having different goals for them than the other minor leaguers--health! If Braddock keeps it up, he could be a Sept callup. I'm not worried about that though. And marty22, yes, it's a small percent that reach the majors. But the stat I was referencing (it might be less than 10%...I last worked the AFL 3 years ago) was saying that of those pitchers with arm surgery (many of whom were top prospects), a very small percent actually make it to MLB. If we were to assume that the stuff of the pitchers we mentioned would have gotten them to MLB if they weren't hurt, the stats then are 10% of them do. JM Gold had great stuff. Mike Jones used to have greats stats in the minors (not sure how his stuff is now). These two would have made the majors, but instead are in the ~90%. Therefore, I advocate taking as much time as possible with them. I used to have a theory that a minor league trainer said simply wasn't true (I still wonder, though). The theory was that with Tommy John surgery, guys can be on the mound in 8-9 months. But the elbow has limited directions it turns. But with shoulder surgeries, many never recover the same (Ramon Martinez, Alex Fernandez, and Teddy Higuera come to mind as stars that were never the same). I wondered if--because there are so many muscles, tissues, ligaments, etc in the shoulder--pitchers would be better off taking time off to strengthen the shoulder and resume daily life before even thinking of throwing a baseball. For instance, with Rotator cuff surgery, why not have the surgery and rehab, then send the player home for 6 months to live daily life--carrying boxes, reading books, holding his kids, etc. That would give the various working parts of the shoulder a chance to sort of re-calibrate. Then start throwing and pitching. I'm a history\econ person teacher that enjoys trying to understand math and science. I tend to be a big believer in nature and all things trying to find equilibrium. Why not let the shoulder have time to find it's balance? That's why I'm optimistic with Jones, as he's now roughly 24 months removed from Tommy John surgery and--at least--36 months from his latest shoulder surgery. While focusing on rehabbing the elbow, he was strengthening the shoulder and letting it find some sense of balance.