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  1. This, in and of itself, is why Braun will be and should be continually roasted. If the users of PEDs have learned nothing from the McGwire, Palmeiro, Bonds, Pettitte, Giambi and Sosa sagas then that is their fatal flaw. Admit guilt, accept punishment and show remorse and all will be forgiven. Brewer fans and MLB fans in general can accept someone's mistake if they fess up to them and admit wrongdoing. It's the grandstanding and profession of innocence, all while saying the "truth hasn't changed" that makes Braun all the more slimy and despicable. He made his bed and now he can sleep it. We as Brewers fans have to remember that we root for the name on the front of the jersey and not the back.
  2. This has nothing to do with Braun's actions but this is a seriously underappreciated part of the conversation about PEDs in sports. The NFL has a serious storm coming if they begin to test for PEDs. I imagine that HGH use in MLB in the late 90s early 2000s versus the PED use in NFL today still would lean in favor the NFL.
  3. http://shop.mlb.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=1452356 Braun is nowhere to be found on the front page of the Brewers MLB Shop page.
  4. I am not sure anyone here is saying Braun is a victim. I know I am not. I am saying that the media's reporting of the situation is unfathomable when other players have committed crimes and those players have not been dragged through the mud like Braun is. Taking a step back from the Braun situation and his constant lying and denials; the media is acting like the usage of PEDs in baseball is a greater crime than the committing of a felony. The venom from the media to me on this is reprehensible.
  5. @Patrick Let's not forget this previous incident: http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5457861 Again, I am furious about Braun's constant lying. The greater point is that in the grand scheme of wrong doing against society, K-Rod-type transgressions and Braun-type transgressions are ENORMOUSLY different.
  6. Agreed. I wasn't referencing what others on the board are upset about. The constant lying from Braun is why I am as upset at Braun as I am as well. My point in the post was that the media crush on Braun is off target and wrong. Crush his character for blatantly lying about being clean. However, these same media members giving free passes to those in baseball who commit actual felonies is wrong. I will take a guy with Braun's "crime" over a guy with K-Rod's crime everyday of the week.
  7. This right here is worth your time. From a Dodger blog: http://www.mikesciosciastragicillness.com/2013/07/23/nothings-ever-as-simple-as-it-seems-when-it-comes-to-ped-suspensions/ Bottom line...Braun did something that is against the rules and continually lied about it. He should be suspended and accept the punishment for doing so. However, the media crushing Braun is absolutely embarrassing. The ingestion of PEDs or whatever he did is not even close to the same level of what actual criminals in baseball do and no punishment is ever levied by MLB. Within the past 12 months alone, MLB looked away as current Brewer K-Rod has a domestic violence charge and current Brewer Yovani Gallardo has a DUI. Where was this outrage? Where was the demands for lifetime suspensions for potentially endangering the lives of numerous individuals? I'm not defending Ryan Braun, I am attacking the unfathomable self-righteousness of media members like Jeff Passan, Jon Morosi, etc... The coverage of this is disgusting.
  8. I'd do K-Rod and Aoki for Castellanos in a heartbeat.
  9. I am holding out hope for a Gallardo, Ramirez and K-Rod to Boston for Barnes, Webster & Middlebrooks trade.
  10. This whole "investigation" has been laughable from the beginning but MLB's credibility will take an enormous hit if this proves true. A lifetime ban for what? Successfully winning an appeal? Braun's lawyers are going to have a field day with this in the event we have seen most of the evidence.
  11. Exactly my thoughts on the whole thing. Additionally, Braun himself has admitted to a relationship with Bosch for consulting purposes during his appeal process. I wish there were some jorunalists left out there who would track down this portion of the story and try to determine the "truth" about this confessed relationship rather than "journalists" like Buster Olney or Jeff Passan.
  12. Yo will be in Milwaukee for the rest of the season. I just don't foresee anyone offering the Brewers the type of return you would expect for someone with Yo's resume, minus this season of course. If Melvin isn't wowed, which I find less and less likely, then I expect him to be starting Opening Day 2014.
  13. Aoki and Axford for Olt +?
  14. I have struggled with this sentiment all season long. The Brewers have a lot of individual talent on this roster but for whatever reason (manager, personalities, injuries), the sum of the parts is a bad mix. I think that an astute GM, be it the Brewers GM or a trading partner's GM, will recognize this and offer something of substance for the likes of Lohse, Ramirez, Aoki and the bullpen. Like Splitter said, I truly believe the Brewers would kick some serious salary if it meant bringing on higher quality prospects, given the Brewers SP and bullpen next year will likely be made up of a lot of players on their initial contracts in baseball.
  15. @TLB: I agree as a Brewers fan that it would be difficult to part with a Jimmy Nelson for a Lohse. However, as a big market fan of say the Red Sox, I would not worry too much about parting with a Nelson for a chance at the World Series this year. In today's baseball economics, teams like the Red Sox can always buy another solution down the line and not have to worry about what that Nelson-type will turn into.
  16. I think any combination of Barnes, Middlebrooks, Owens and Ranaudo for Lohse and Ramirez would work for me. I would even go Lohse, Ramirez, Gonzalez and one of Axford/Henderson/K-Rod for all four of them if the Red Sox were willing.
  17. If we were to be able to trade Lohse + Ramirez to say Boston for a return of Barnes and Middlebrooks (even though some don't like Wil) I think it would make people forget about the draft pick the Brewers gave up to sign Lohse. I think that should be a huge focus on the trading of Lohse, assuming DM does so.
  18. If it's Arizona, I think Skaggs and Davidson for Gallardo + name your RP will do it. Skaggs high end is probably the 2011 Gallardo and a 3B for the future in Davidson. I would hope to follow that up with a Ramirez + Aoki + different RP to Boston for Barnes & another SP OR a Ramirez + RP to Los Angeles deal for Lee + Pederson. I just really hope we don't get past July 31 and we are underwhelmed by DM's lack of activity.
  19. If I am the Brewers, I am focusing on Bauer AND Salazar for Gallardo. Maybe throw in Axford if that is what it took.
  20. I won't be shocked if Corey is extended to the tune of 2 years $15 million after this season. Seems like a very Melvin move to me. Corey shouldn't be done as he is only 31 and $7.5 million/season for ages 32 & 33 is relatively inexpensive for the potential of 30 HR. I don't see Melvin passing that up if Corey will take it.
  21. This is why we are in an good position with Yo though as well. He isn't a FA after this season like Greinke was in 2012, so we really do not have to deal him unless someone is willing to overpay and get the Yo of old. Like others have said, unless someone pays for the Yo of old we should just ride it out with him and hope he increases his trade value over the final months of 2013.
  22. If Axford, K-Rod, Aoki, Ramirez, Lohse, any piece of the bullpen and MAYBE Yo aren't traded between now and the deadline, I think the Brewers will have missed a major opportunity to significantly cut the time associated with a re-build/re-tooling.
  23. Ah...gotcha. Well, I guess you have me on the injury thing in that it shapes who Tulowitzki is as a ballplayer. One could argue Braun has the fear of a Biogenesis suspension hanging over his head that forms him as a ballplayer too. I won't though. What I will argue is that over a 3 year period, when Tulowitzki was his healthiest, 2009-2011, the numbers show he is close to or equal to what Braun was over the same period. Tulowitzki: GAMES: 416 HR: 89 RBI: 292 AVG: .304 OBP: .376 SLG: .554 Braun: GAMES: 465 HR: 90 RBI: 328 AVG: .318 OBP: .382 SLG: .548
  24. Not sure I follow here. Barring injuries and the SB catergory, Tulo's production has been at or near Braun's while playing SS. I agree Tulo had a down 2008 but other than that year the only thing that has prevented him from Braun-like production is injuries. Like I said in my previous post, the concern with Tulo is injuries and without those he is essentially Ryan Braun at a premium position.
  25. So you'd only trade Segura for a much more expensive, much more injury prone, and much older player at the same position? Don't get me wrong, if I could choose between both players as 23 year olds I take Tulo hands down, but Tulo is 28 and as it turned out has trouble staying on the field. He's only played more than 145 (chosen because that's 90% of a season) games twice and came close 1 other time. I really like Tulo as player but there no way I take any proven star at the SS position over Segura -- his production relative to his cost makes him untradable. Your points about Tulowitzki (expensive, injuries) are valid and I completely understand your point of view. However, Tulo has proven to be a Braun at the SS position. While I do believe we are seeing the real Segura, who knows if this is his career year and he will revert to something less for the remainder of his career. Tulowitzki, when healthy, is a HOF-caliber player who is entering and in the early years of his prime and is a proven commodity. Like you said though, Segura's production relative to his cost is the sticking point. If you could guarantee me Segura is a .300+ hitter with an annual 15-20 HR and 30-40 SBs a season then Segura for Tulo is a loss for the Crew. It's more of an unknown and potential with Segura and the reason why you can't just arbitrarily say no to a Tulo-Segura deal.
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