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with spring training officially commencing I am interested to see which "vet" shows up to spring training in the [sarcasm]best shape of their life[/sarcasm] since its common place that we get one BSOL fluff piece every year. side note: i would be interested to see the analytics on performance vs. spring bsol announcements.... My vote is for a pitcher this year i will guess Matt Garza with a hedge on willy peralta or jimmy nelson.

SP: 1. Kirby 2. Woodruff 3. Hader 4. Lopez 5. Medieros/Ortiz BP: Williams T Williams D Ponce Bickford Hauser Supak Diplan CF: Diaz RF: Harrison 2b: Diaz LF: orimoleye C: Nottingham 3B: Erceg 1B: coulter SS: Arica

If he got all 3 for thornburg I approve this message #MakeMilwaukeeGreatAgain

It's almost like some of you don't remember that last season was Garza's only season (since his rookie mid year call up with the twins) that he posted an era over 4... He has REALLY good number outside of one season, I think the resentment of that performance might be clouding some judgement, if he gets his ERA under 4 and the Brewers picked up 6 million of his contract the return could be a little better than the Arron Hill return. Since his option didn't vest into a play option because of his injury the tea option at 5 would be very attractive.

Hoping for a great start tonight from garza against a good lineup. If he keeps it up and finishes strong I feel like he will have pitched himself into tradability, especially not with only 1 year and 12.5 left in the off-season. If he could get the ERA under 4, which he has a chance of doing, and the Brewers were willing to eat half or more of the salary (they can afford it right now), what do you think is a reasonable return?

Brinson's double hit the top of the wall right at the 415 sign, he hit it 414.5 ft

Hader so far, 1 called strike, not 1 swing and miss, throwing 89-92

I went to go see Hader tonight and they cancelled the damn game due to a 10 minute sprinkle of rain, super disappointing and they are already sold out on the rest of the sox games :-(

I am not sure about the recovery time tables, but i would see one or both of taylor williams and nathan kirby going. I remember thinking that they could still pitch toward the end of this season. Especially with williams, if hes recovered, i could see him being a guy they would like a look at.

Really??? Wang certainly appears to be erecting his prospect status. I feel like "elevating" his prospect status plays just as well and isnt as much of a reach. Ps. i am disappointed in this community that i am the first to post this after such a successful AAA debut.... Looks like the embed didnt work, heres the link!

i have no info, but would be interested to hear what other have to say. I would assume that playing in CS has made him more of a 1 pitch guy than anything, and maybe the focus on that has made it even better. He always had plus velocity, maybe now he has plus control of it also.

I just read something on him the other day that said he picked up a couple ticks on his fastball and now he closer to a mid-90s guy and it's allowing his secondary which were avg. to play up. So basically 2-3mph on his Fb turned him from a 3 avg. offerings #5 ceiling to a 3 above avg to fring Plus offerings number 3 ceiling. That's a big jump! It's exciting, but also concerning as we tend to see guys in this system drop velocity at the higher levels in favor of 'being more controlled' and with a report like that it would send him back to mediocrity.

I noticed that Daniel brown was originally reported to have signed for slot money, then the signing was denied by the Brewers, then it was later reported again that he signed and I think we all assumed it was the originally reported slot deal. I just looked it up and his deal was 125k or half of the 250k slot, giving the crew an extra 125k that most of us didn't account for. It appears they used every single penny!

I think Taylor Williams is the forgotten man a little bit, his stuff was electric before the TJ surgery. also Jon Perrin has really impressed.

I thought it was interesting that coming out of the break the brewers decided to line up both Peralta and Jungmann with Garza's rotation spot. not surprising that they would have a big league ready guy behind Garza, but that both are lined up with him and wilkerson is lined with jimmy nelson (no indications there). I would have half thought that 1 of the 3 might line up with anderson's spot. Maybe i am looking way too much into it, but it seems to indicate that they are going to let anderson ride and are trying to move garza, which would be amazing if they could find a taker! Edit** they EXPECT to move Garza *** not just 'trying'

You missed the 5% of total slot value you can go over before penalty

I could see Guerra and Hill being packaged together and bringing back a close to top 100 guy like a 150 range prospect and another very young project type. That would make this season a massive succes on its own right there.

You can only use bonus pool money from the top 10 rounds on guys picked in those rounds. I believe that the next 10 are a group, then the next 20

i know that this board tends to get down on college players, but when i heard billy beane speak this spring one of the things he mentioned is that the top of their board have moved almost entirely to collegiate players because his analytics team used all of the data available as far back as they could go and a collegiate players taken in the first 5 rounds make an "impact" at the big league level 90% more often than a highschool player taken in the same spot. Then he said, "my scouts hate me for this, but we cannot argue with history and the data." he said he joked at their next meeting that they would ONLY draft college players and one of his scouts got up and quit right there.

What do you all think villar's value is at this trade deadline with the season he's having and all the team control left. I'm not saying I think the Brewers should trade him, just wondering if anyone has a sense of his value/return?

I know i am late to this thread, but my answer would be that i was BEGGING the brewers to pick up Matt Latos. everyone on here told me i was crazy because the brewers already had their rotation. My logic was that you could start jungmann at triple A or put Garza in the pen if latos was pitching well and then flip him and give the spot to whoever is performing the best in the minors. The brewers were one of the 6 teams that went and watched him workout and he signed with the white sox for 1 year 3 million, or, in other words, nothing. Currently he has a 1.84 era in five starts and has already been worth 1.1 WAR. for 3 million... at the deadline he could definitely be trade for a nice minor leaguer or 2. so for about 1.5 million worth of performance you would be able to 'buy' a contending teams top 5 prospect.

awesome feedback guys. Two things; 1. I am not at all rooting for Jean or Tyler to fail, not sure why thats being implied... Its simply frustrating that Segura NOW (finally) is showing the promise that made him the center of the Grienke trade, but its for arizona and not milwuakee. I was also frustrated that Wagner was included as i was always a big fan of his throughout the minors and thought he really didnt get a fair shake of a look for the crew last year. 2. this was not meant to be an indictment of Stearns or any of his other trades. I am assuming that has been a hot topic in other threads, but not my intentions here. I wanted to look at just this move and see if it frustrated anyone else. On Stearns, im a big fan so far. I was lucky enough to hear billy beane speak during spring training this year and i thought it was really interesting how far ahead of everyone he seems to be. the best way to explain is he said every year the model changes as teams try to copy. so what they found in the mid 2000s was that the most 'overpaid' trait in baseball was speed and the most 'underpaid' was onbase% and when they weighted the "tools" against expected wins OBP was the second highest indicator and speed was the lowest. then he said, "do you think we are still trying to underpay for OBP?? NO, because the yankees and everyone with money saw what we were doing and copied buy buying the tool, its now the most overpaid." so, this whole story is to say that since stearns learned from him i am really hoping he is applying the same principles and models. Until he proves otherwise, he has my vote! The one uneasy thing, though, is he said the GM should always be the dumbest guy in the room, not the smartest, and a few of the stearns moves have a look of trying to be the smartest guy in the room.

There is something frustrating about seeing segura go 3-5 at the top of the D-backs lineup (.338/.949) and Tyler Wagner (0.00 era) go 5 scoreless against Cueto and the Giants. It's abviously wayyyy to early to judge that trade, and when it happened it felt like we got a lot, but I've always been a Wagner fan and didn't like his inclusion. What are your opinions on this trade so far?

there height and weight is close but not too close, maybe they are brothers... not twins. Big Time Jimmy Tim is 6'6" 245 Lester The Molester is 6'4" 240

quick go look at the brewers.com home page and look at the pictures of Jimmy Nelson and Jon Lester side by side.... they look like the same person, lester is just smiling a little bigger.