And for someone that really doesn't take it very well when his opinions are challenged, you're very quick with those emoticons. I admit it when I'm wrong about things. I just like good discussion. I do see both sides of discussions, but they are opinions for a reason. Baseball strategy is an opinion, there is no book saying, "if this is the situation, then you do this". Just like blackjack. Yeah, there are general rules, but they don't always apply. Just so we don't stray from the game convo, I'll send ya a message telling you my thought on OPS in your ezinbox. P.S. And yes, I need to quit using those darn emoticons! I agree.