How did Lou Pinella do with those craptastic Devil Rays teams 2003-2005?? 63-99, 70-91, 67-95. How did Lou Pinella do with those not so craptastic Mariners teams in 2000-2002? 91-71, 116-46, 93-69 So what happened from 2002 to 2003? Did Pinella forget how to manage? Did he spend too much time talking with the idiot Ned Yost and some of that poor managing rubbed off on him? Or did he just have a team that was far less talented? How about Joe Torre managing the Mets in 1977-1980? 66-96, 63-99, 67-95? Was he that much of a worse manager there than he is now with the Yankees? Or is there just a tad more talent on the Yankees roster? How about Phil Garner from 1996-2001 with Milwaukee and Detroit? 80-82, 78-83, 74-88, 79-83, 66-96? Then he gets to Houston and goes 89-73 and plays in a world series in his first full season? Did he suddently turn into a good manager? Or did talent play into account? How about Bobby Cox? He was 69-93 and 66-94 in his first 2 seasons with the Braves. Then he came back 10 years later and won 14 division titles in a row. Do you think the talent improved during those 10 years? Or do you think Cox went from Idiot to genious? How about Terry Francona? He managed the Philles to records of 68-94, 75-87, 77-84, 65-97. He was fired after 4 years. He took over a talented Red Sox team in 2004 and has since gone 98-64, 95-67, 86-76. The point is, just because he didn't have to get fired and re-hired somewhere else to show it, Ned Yost can manage. He's always been able to. He is just now finally able to manage a team that has the ability to compete.