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They have a cap before luxury tax. Yankees make so much money, you can't cap and penalize them hurting players potential salaries. I like how Brock made the Television revenue shared point vs the tickets revenue sharing. One would be fixed and more predictable. And I think something more predictable would go a long way towards a salary floor proposal. That's my feeling since retraction isn't an option. I'd personally like to see 2 teams removed from bottom 1/3rd markets and their portions of revenue sharings is spread more to the already receiving teams.

1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 13 seeds first rd.

1-2-3-4-7-9-11-12 seeds 1st rd I'll take.

In terms of draft trade value a pick swap is like getting the 100th selection end of 3rd rd. 1st #13 1150 value. All of Jets remaining picks in 2023 843.5 Value. 20th pick value. Swapping our 2nd for their 1st in the trade is net 700 value. 26th pick value. Jets 2nd and 3rd is 690value. 27th pick value. Swap first and get 2nd is 570 value. About 34th pick value. Gambling with 2024 picks when Rodgers addition could be the best QB Jets have every had in their history by end of 2023? God it's such loss because you see at best an 18th pick value of 900.(condition of making the playoffs worst record with playoff loss) Win SB pick 32 is 590 value. Swap our 2 with their 1 has to be the minimum return value if Rodgers is traded before the draft 700 value. I guess I could say 2&3. For 690value. If you take a 2024 1st it's unconditional if you're not getting the minimum value before it,for 2023. It's nuts to me people would trade Roders away for a 3rd rd pick to be over this.

ADamBR2. This is sorta why I came up with my idea. The draft trade value nets GB about the 26th pick value in the 1st rd by swapping. Jets keep enough value the 2 seconds is enough value to be the 18th pick in a trade. Move up to about 23-25 and they could then take that teams 3rd rd. pick for equal value. Or they just keep 2 top half 2nd rd picks. The trade value between 13 and settling for 43 is a 1st rd value of 780 or #22. That's a big gap when settling for the 2nd vs getting their 1st. You take a 1st next season it stands within reason Rodgers carries them to a 26+ selection. At 26 combined with you have to assume this year's 2nd rd the value stands between #14 and #15 combined. GBs top 2 pick compensation then is below the value of getting this year's 13. It's important to get more than 2nd rd value for Rodgers when your taking on the large hit moneywise.

GB should not give in til they get the Jets 13th pick. The swap idea 15-13 isn't working. Jets don't want to not not have a 1st rd pick this season. Simply tell them swapping your 13+ 3rd with 2024 conditional 3rd, for our 45th in 2023. They'll have 43&45 more than enough to trade back in to 1st round. I'd make the conditional as 3rd with 2nd if win division. 1st if played in AFC Championship game. Send them some money I guess if that's a thing. I've heard mentions during ESPN Milw radio of that, but I didn't think that was a thing could do.

Probably based on the fact there's 0 SB victory chances keeping him here in GB. 13-3, 13-4, B2B MVPs and he didn't get us there. Now? GB defense blew their talent, the DC is back because Rodgers won 4 in row, keeping Barry to ruin them again. Fans dealt with Favre, who's only ruined his image further past his Packers career. Been there done that. Just rip the bandaid off on vs the years of getting our hopes up and then extremely letting fans down in brutal ways. Bucks are excelling, easy timing to take a break on Packers heartbreaks. That Lions game was the nail in the coffin. I can't care less what happens with Rodgers in GB or gone. The FO has shown it wasn't helping Rodgers down the stretch, season after season. They wasted a 1st rd&4th rd pick on Love in 2020 lets go ahead and see how terrible a move they made. I don't want to be robbed of him not starting for a season as a GB QB anymore. Prove to me you were the smartest guy in the room getting Love, vs the dumbest.

The rumor on the Jets WR owed 10.5M mentioned another team. I'm guessing they are including the WR in a 3 team deal to make cap room to sign Lazard? Draft picks involved? From GB or Jets maybe both? Rather than just release the WR and the contract trying to get something out of it? Rodgers it sounds looks not only to add Lazard, but Lewis, with Cobb and OBJ. You add that both GB&NYJ need to have the payroll side worked out for the impending draft+FA $$. Just a complicated mess to pull off.

Yeah this is kinda what I meant when talking about finding a way to .500 or a game or 2 above. The division being really bad. Nate as to your QB quality in this draft, I've heard I believe 4 QBs picked in first 9 selections? That seems like a lot when also suggesting a strong defense group for the draft. I know 1st yr QBs don't generally make immediate impacts. This is 1.1 so Carolina has the best shot drafting the QB who does.

Is this a haul? It's a solid trade no doubt, but Carolina didn't make a move like the Bears trading all those 1st rd picks to move up 1 spot. 1-9 and 61 this year. A future 1st that if Carolina lands the correct QB immediately jumps to a .500 team. So 15th-ish?. Then a year later a 2nd rd where now may be in 60s again. DJ Moore is a good get but at 17.5M a year. Rather than picking up a rookie 1st rd WR under a rookie contract by finding a team who had 2 1sts to trade you this year. That they only gain 1 draft pick this season. Again I think it's a solid trade, but that 2nd rd pick in 2025 makes this feel quite light. I think a 4th rd this season is better than waiting for a 2nd rd 2 years later.

Favre to Rodgers, some Fandom take on the two. Favre can be comparable with recovering from pain addiction(wrote a book about it), losing his father, being married and his wife going through cancer. This aside from his Mississippi roots and farm tractors. Rodgers never married, not close to his family, Dates Olivia Munn, Danica Patrick, Shailene Woodley who was engaged to. Never followed through. What really is there in his outside NFL life that fans could compare with? While I'd like to say fans will remain strong on Favre's end over Rodgers 5-10years from now, probably won't be true since older generations pass on and the Rodgers generation will still be here. To the trade idea with Jets. If the cap space will be troubled by adding a 1st rd pick, then I'd assume a 2nd rd pick with conditional 2nd or 1st rd depending say if that Jets pick would be top 10 next year. That Sauce comment is interesting. Do 3 team trades happen in the NFL? Could we see a team trade for Wilson send us their backup QB as we'll need 1 with a Rodgers departure. And the idea of doom days ahead. And to Packers SB expectations/projections last season. Gary was lost and our Def Cord. ran a poor scheme for 5? 6games? In to the season. Wasted use of what should have been a better defensive team. Majority of that defense still here. There are 2 legit RBs still here. High potential WRs to grow a QB with. Not annointing them SB expectations in 2023, just that being .500 team or a game or 2 better isnt out of reality. Love comes in to a good situation with regard to having players around him to shoulder a load vs relying all on him. Lafluer and company drafted him with MLF's scheme in mind you would think. Rodgers may have gotten away with overriding MLF's playcalling. Maybe his scheme would produce better with a QB who stuck more with it. Through these last 30years the Central/North has mostly been lacking quality beyond the Packers. And I wouldn't expect much of a change with the QBs now leading the other 3 teams. Teams have succeeded in years without an elite QB, its tougher certainly but great defensive teams have won SBs. We could be that team with a few adds to defense in this draft and growth from the young players returning.

There os the issue comparing Hiura extension to extending Mitchell, Wiemer, Chourio, and Frelick Turang too. They are all expected to be plus defenders or in Frelick's case he's hovering at 15% k Pct. That protects the investment if the offense doesn't hold up to the defenders and Frelick the defense side. Hiura has always been questioned if he could hold on to 2b defensively. He's short not ideal for 1b. And the DH wasn't an option yet in 2019. You gotta figure these guys will provide 2WAR on defense and baserunning alone and the hitting when it's right better than 4WAR.

Well pitching future as to depth this year and 2024. Espino " over four Double-A starts before getting sidelined by knee tendinitis, then got shut down with shoulder soreness. After his shoulder continued to bother him this winter, he was diagnosed with a muscle strain and a capsule tear, so the Guardians sidelined him again and it's unclear when his 2023 season will begin" The #1 pitching prospect. Gavin Williams #2 team prospect. has 3 starts at AA. That's a 2024 at best mid season addition. #5 Bibee looks legit why I look for them back in a trade. Another AA 2024 addition. #8 Logan Allen. Stats to project as 3-4SP not top of the rotation(similar to Lauer who's a 3-4) #13 Justin Campbell. Picked in 2022 hasn't pitched yet 3+years away. So the future has just that future away. There's no addition in 2023 they would have adding to playoff roster. Very unlikely a SP from this list beginning the 2024 season and as a Rookie in 2024 mid season do you have faith to pitch them in playoffs in 2024? So reliable future begins on a 2025 season in my opinion. The premise here is does Cleveland see the AL as weakened to make a push for a WS with the defending division winners addressing the matchups at the top of their rotations? My take on what a Burnes trade could look like is a scenario Cleveland wants to pursue a run at WS this season/next improving the team as soon as Burnes has become available to trade for. Espino could be a headache with injuries just delaying his future multiple years. Allen the closest to Majors has the 3/4 stat profile. In between you're looking at a 2024 addition. The depth is very thin so to me its realistic they trade for an immediate upgrade. Edit add seeing this comment. Heck, Espino & Valera are hurt right now... If those 2 are healthy & performing, they might be filling roles in CLE by the trade deadline. Valera is already on the 40 man roster & Espino is Rule 5 eligible after this season. With his injury the idea he'd get a role helping the team this season and staying protected on rule 5 is ending his SP future and he becomes a late inning RP for a long time to come. It takes a multitude of seasons building up from a max of 91 IP in a professional season. Which looks unlikely he'll exceed with that injury news above. His future as a SP is 3+ years away to build up over 20Games started at 6IP.

And that's all good. More of just an example of what a trade can look like when you don't have a SS locked in for 6/7years at 17+Mil a season. With the OF&C looking set for next 7seasons you squeeze even more at SS with Adames extension the trade options and quality of a return potentially. If you take away the SS options what can Minnesota even offer logically to acquire Woody? You're removing an entire trade team option and there is a lot of 2024 players turning FA. I guess there's always the 3rd team route.

Scanning just a few of those SS. Minnesota has 2 top 50 SS. #31 Brooks Lee 8th pick last year. And Royce Lewis #1 overall 2017 at #45. So an example on a return I'd assume Woodruff as a Twins target and getting Lee Priellip 2nd rd pick, 1 of either Kirilloff(unlikely) or Jose Miranda(more likely) You'd never consider this trade if you extended Adames.

This. You need to consider where they may prefer putting 20-30Mil a year investment. Chourio, Wiemer, Frelick, Mitchell. You toss multiple 6-14M seasons on these guys over 7-8year time frame over a single 18-23M year SS. A position becoming loaded with talent. Everyone is starting out at SS. Chourio was signed as a SS and his talent/speed moved him into OF. When you think about future returns on trades. You're stacked at OF and if talented SS are growing left and right, that position could actually be one filled now vs blocked. There are 14 SS listed to start the season in top 50 ranks. 22 overall in top 100. In any Burnes/Wodruff/Adames trade you'll want at least 1 top 50 prospect. SSs occupy over 1/4 of that group.

Cleveland could be an interesting team that could use Burnes or Woodruff. They sit with 7 prospects in the MLB top 100. 3 of them pitchers. They also graduated former 40s-50s Nolan Jones as an OF displacing him from 3rd base with Ramirez locked in til 2028 there. Shane Bieber sits like Burnes and Woodruff with just another year remaining after 2023. Quantrill and Plesac another 2 years after this season. Gavin Williams, Nolan Jones, and Tanner Bibee. That's be current #42 and #65 with Jones as a former #50 roughly. Probably look to pry a RP in the making as well. I'm seeing a Joey Cantillo who looks the swingman RP part. Jones could take on the 3b role in the future and you get 2 solid looking SPs to call up around the time all our guys depart after 2024. Forgot to add why does Cleveland do this? because their staff isn't stout and could use the addition to go on a run. They don't really have the depth backup to maintain a full season. Their top guy Bieber as noted leaves after 2024 and without the future looking bright on their pitching prospects, they can shoot for what may be a weakened AL Championship. Jones being out of position and at a position Cleveland is good with and growing in the minors, easy to trade off.

Watched a Dodger suggested YouTube discussing a trade for Burnes, pro/cons. Their final offer on btv had them sending 63.3M value while Burnes had 78.5M or near. Definitely started 78.M Think it was like #2&4 team prospect rank with added below 10s team ranks. Or one of the 2 and Tony Gonsolin and spare parts. I would think Vargas who's #3 and one of their top SPs before even beginning added parts. Another 1 had Toronto saying he'd be a great fit for them but didn't think they could work out a deal. One of the minor things on taking lotto tickets right now is the depth and international signings in the system. Rule 5 protecting. There is bound to be a point where the unprotected lotto tickets are drafted due to sheer number of talents that are growing in the Brewers system. So with the amount of potential trades between the big 2 SPs, Lauer, Tellez, and Adames. You have to believe the targets are like Contreras a 1+year into their ML career.

What I'm suggesting is the minors are children level being asked to abide by this new rule. MLB players are the adults being told to abide by this new rule. Remember some of the reactions and freak out displays from the pitchers substance checking. Scherzer? I think? undressing himself to be checked walking off the mound. To believe this change will just go smoothly without a hitch in a sport where superstitious players exist? There will be drama at points this season. Players and managers will be interviewed after games when the drama occurs and you'll hear arguments how the pitch clock needs to be better. Minor Leaguers and managers aren't going to have the post game following if they say the kind of things when major league players and managers do following post game. It'll turn in to talking topics on ESPN and other sports shows seeking the opinion on what was said following the game that included drama due the pitch clock affecting. Does that explain my thoughts? Or do you have another question?

Sure it probably is an overreaction. But I'd argue the test level was the minors. Players who don't need ill-will as they try to climb to the Majors. Say a prospect makes the comment I believe seen on Machado. Who supposedly said he'll probably start out his at bats down 0-1 in counts, meaning he's going to do what he wants opposing that pitch clock. Do teams want to call up prospects who are reluctant on a pitch clock rule? Their good behavior and promotion is their golden ticket. MLB players already on teams or paid tens of millions of dollars a year? What's to prevent them from being reluctant on adjusting to the pitch clock? I also thought I'd make a little idea on the Vegas idea. Over/unders. Rather than an ump being chastised on a missed call, they are able to throw a strike 3 or ball 4 on a situation that maybe hinders a superstar from coming to the plate with runners on. Take the bases loaded situation, strike 3 eliminates huge potential of runs scored helping the under potentially win that game. The ump meanwhile is just following the rules. Remember umps are being graded and talks of automated strike/ball zone calling. There are a number that are petty and this could provide them a platform how changing the game looks bad when enforcing these new rules. You also going to see bad beat flak from bettors whose bet may have direct impact from that violation called at the moments in games. Strike out or walk with base loaded. I enjoy the fact that it seems games could be done in 2hrs and 30mins consistently. Just tossing out what 1st uear hiccups could be as I never really thought a game would end by an ump enforcing a 3rd strike on clock violation.

Reading the inning play by play. Braves down 6-3, scored 3 runs, had the bases loaded with 1 out. 5 straight strikes left the batter 0-2 bases loaded with 2outs. Ump calls the auto strike for time ends the game. Does the pitcher get the strikeout for his stats? The save? Immediately brought to mind on Vegas and ending a comeback this way. So in the 9th inning and later in games, there maybe needs to add seconds to not see a game be determined this way. Or remove the pitch clock? Though a closer blowing up walking batters makes for a very long inning. I'm just wondering if they have sped the game up through 8innings, how bad is it to allow the 9th leeway on the rules? How about giving a SP who reaches the 8th and 9th innings an added 2secs in each of those innings? Complete game performance, no hitter going, or perfect game going? Maybe that's all the adjustment is needed. Add 2 secs for 8th inning for both sides. Make it a total 4secs added in 9th inning. So it becomes clear when an infraction happens, you can't get upset with the ump.

Mlb has the ghost runner in extra innings. Games should be over consistently sooner. RPs should be pitching in games and not "saved" we learned awhile ago with Hader the best RP should be pitching the most important time for him out there. 7th, 8th, or 9th. Teams need to have 2 closer quality RPs, 2 Setup quality pitchers and 2 long men less quality pitchers. The rest are the shuttlers up and down through the minors and back. A team should have the next days Starter on Standby in case that day's Starter suffers an injury or ejection in 1st or 2nd inning. Team would call up an emergency starter for the next game. Would be a great rule to allow teams the bonus SP in that situation like an extra player for double headers. The jist of this is 3 batter minimum, shorter extra inning games. RPs and babying their workload needs to go away. Multiple position players pitching innings for teams vs one who can duo like Ohtani. Not helping the game move along. Maybe the game needs a SP rule where Starters are pushed to pitch at least a 3rd time through the top 4 hitters in a lineup before allowed to be pulled by a manager. Or the SP has thrown 100+pitches. Team needs to declare the SP that is limited to below 100 pitches before game is started and removed at the teams declared limit. The way to bring back hitting to Baseball.

Taylor is the OF with plus defense. Anderson shouldn't see playing time in the OF. Then you mention Toro and Perkins, and Miller. These guys are the AAAA replacements for serious injury bugs. If any of them got more than 60PAs I'll be surprised. We can't fill the 26man roster with 20 position players.

I don't really think there is a battle. I think it's cut and dry what the 5 SPs will be at full health. Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta, Ashby, and Miley. Lauer at 6 and Houser at 7 with both being bullpen bodies. Still honestly feel a trade off on one of Miley, Lauer, or Houser occurs around Opening day as teams deal with their own SP fallout on not ready to field even 5 SPs. Alexander may just remain the backup option as the season progresses and we don't have 5 SPs to throw on their days.

Looks like for Urias he changed his approach to hit more HRs which got him his debut. With the shift ban, the launch angle craze may dwindle a little not focusing on hitting it over well placed fielders to even over the wall and being able to send solid contact through the holes that wasn't there the previous seasons. All the guys I listed except Frelick are 23-26 k pct. I'll wait til they are through their age 27 season before believing they can't improve their contact skills.