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That sure sounded like some pretty good base running by Carlos Gomez there. -
I thought he was bound and determined to drive in a run.
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Henderson: now pitching in Arizona
sveumrules replied to Mr Southpaw's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Historically bad? Could you please provide some examples of GM's who are historically good in this area so I know what criteria you are using as a basis for comparison? -
Since Roenicke has been managing the team our pitchers have ranked 30th, 30th, 24th and 26th in HBP. You can wish or hope or pray that he starts drilling people in retaliation but it ain't gonna happen. Me personally, I like to say a prayer and drink to world peace.
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I'm personally fine with no retaliation. RRR doesn't need to order his pitcher to hit a guy for his players to know he has their backs. They're well aware. Take the free base and move along.
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I'm pretty much with you all the way, endaround. The base running stats are nowhere near as reliable as batting stats. The Brewers do seem to make an inordinate amount of stupid outs on the bases. I don't particularly like it either. At the same time neither I nor any other poster on this forum really has any basis for comparison as to how those seemingly numerous stupid mistakes compare to those made by other teams. In that case I'll defer to those who do make a concerted effort to do so. For what it's worth Baseball Prospectus has us 2nd in MLB per their base running metrics so fangraphs isn't alone in their positive overall assessment.
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As much as I would love to watch every game and assign positive value for additional bases taken and subtract value for outs made on the bases, I just don't have the time. In the meantime I'll give a some creedence to the folks that are able to do so, even if the results don't line up with my preconceived notions. We are not the only team that makes stupid outs on the bases.
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Thanks for not putting that in blue, we need to keep reminding posters of this fact. Currently 6th in MLB per fangraphs. Compared to other teams we make less mistakes and take more extra bases.
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Matt Carpenter has the highest OBP and is tied for the lead in wRC+ among NL 3B. Peralta is the 3rd best SS in the NL offensively behind Tulo & Hanley. Holliday has a 124 wRC+ in a down year. I think there's still plenty of punch there. Taveras has been incapable so far in 100 sporadic plate appearances, let's see what happens when he gets settled in and knows he'll be in the lineup everyday. I hope you're both right, though.
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Braun's 784 OPS was good for a 121 wRC+, that's much more impressive than Haniger's 719/107 performance. Also Braun was a "3rd baseman" at the time and was a much higher draft pick and far more highly regarded as a prospect. Comparing the two is disingenuous.
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Getting rid of Craig is addition by subtraction. Where could they really have improved their offense? They just picked up Pierzynski to fill Molina's spot. Their infield is Carpenter, Peralta, Wong and Adams. Wong is the weakest hitter in the bunch but he's one of their top prospects and there were really no significant upgrades at 2B on the market. Holliday, Jay, Bourjos and Taveras is a full outfield rotation. On paper, or more appropriately a spreadsheet in this day & age, they're still the best team in the division. Luckily the games are played on a field and not a computer screen. Let's hope this 2 game cushion is enough.
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I don't think you can even come close to comparing Dykstra to Haniger, I think that is a very big stretch... You're right. Cutter Dykstra posted a 132 wRC+ in A+ last year (compared to 107 for Haniger) and is at 118 this year in AA (103 for Haniger). So there really isn't a comparison, Cutter has outperformed Haniger the last two years. He is a year and a half older so Haniger has time to close the gap but so far there isn't really a comparison.
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Since Lucroy and Brantley were mentioned, I thought I'd post their numbers at Huntsville for comparisons sake... Lucroy 284/394/426 (primarily as a 23 year old) Brantley 298/382/366 (age 20 & 21) with 45/56 SB/CS & more BB than SO Haniger 255/316/416 (age 23)
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Why quote WAR which is a summation of offense, playing time, position, base running and defense when just comparing the defensive performance of two players?
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I'm giving credence to the most reliable information. His 636 combined plate appearances in A+/AA tell us far more than his 236 plate appearances in A ball or his 150ish plate appearances in the notoriously fluky environments of Spring Training and the AFL. His performance in Brevard does count for something, he hit 7% better than league average. For me that is holding his own, but nothing to get excited about. Compare that to Taylor who is currently hitting 18% better than league average while being considerably younger. That I can get excited about. Right, none of those guys in AAA have earned a promotion because they suck and there are no vacancies. Much the same as our outfield has no vacancies for the next couple years, thus starting in AAA and pushing for playing time in the bigs are two distinct entities. By the time their is a vacancy I'd much rather it be filled by Taylor than by Haniger.
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Nobody said he would have started the year for the Brewers next year(though possible given how he performed this past spring training). I think there are some very short memories on here. Haniger was a guy everyone was talking about coming out of this spring training on this board. Jim Callis - With 96 minutes to go, OF Mitch Haniger leads the Best Prospect traded on deadline day race This is a guy who excelled in the AFL, who hit ~.300/.400 last year in A ball and came into camp this year and played great vs big league pitching. And yes, he very well could have pushed for PT in Milwaukee next year. If you are arguing that he would have likely started the year in AAA, how can you argue that he wouldn't have pushed for PT in Milwaukee next year? He can play all 3 OF spots and has produced when healthy. ^^ This ^^ I give little credence to Spring Training breakouts, every year there are tons of nobodies who light it up in the spring to never be heard from again. I also take AFL stats with a grain of salt as it is a notoriously hitter friendly league. Sure, The Wisconsin numbers are nice but he has slashed 250/323/396 in Brevard and 255/316/416 at Huntsville, both marks barely above league average. Starting in AAA and pushing for playing time in MLB are two very different things. The 9 players with the most at bats in Nashville are Hector Gomez, Sean Halton, Caleb Gindl, Eugenio Velez, Hunter Morris, Pete Orr, Jeremy Hermida, Kevin Mattison and Irving Falu. How many of them have really pushed for playing time in Milwaukee?
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Sure, if we don't take into account what we had to trade. For the record, Parra has been worth -.3 WAR this year. Schafer -.2 WAR. Parra's defense has not been very good this year by either fangraphs or BBRef measures. But he is a marginal upgrade off the bench. I maintain that Haniger is no real loss, he hasn't had any success outside of Wisconsin. Schafer has better hitting stats in A+ and in AA. Mitch may well have a higher ceiling but tools are useless if they don't yield any production. Sure, Parra and Schafer have similar WAR this year but that is a counting stat and Gerardo has 300 more plate appearances. What would Schafer's WAR be if he had 440 plate appearances instead of 109? Considerably worse. Parra averaged 3 WAR a year between 2010 & 2012 with a 99 wRC+. If Haniger produces a single full 3 WAR season with league average batting I will be surprised.
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I don't see how Haniger pushes for time in Milwaukee next year, he hasn't even been good at Huntsville. He would have at best started in Nashville with the way the Brewers like to make their players succeed at every level before being promoted. Plus he is right handed which doesn't help his chances with three firmly entrenched right handed outfielders.
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Logan Schafer has hit 183/267/288 this year. Gerardo Parra has hit 259/305/362 this year. I'd classify that as a significant upgrade.
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Parra wRC+ 81 Schafer wRC+ 49 Haniger career minor league OPS 766 Schafer career minor league OPS 781 Haniger may have been a high pick but doesn't look like much more than a 4th OF at this point.
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Reminds me of a muppet on crystal meth.
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I won't be crushed if this is the last deal of the day. Very easy to pick up a marginal upgrade at LH 1B, Utility IF or RH reliever in August.
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Parra's splits vs RHP aren't overly impressive so I doubt we see him start more than 1 game a week in place of Davis.
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Maybe Ziegler?
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Batting average isn't useless, it's just there are so many stats that are better predictors of offensive success. The A's have scored the most runs in the AL. They are 3rd in OBP, 6th in SLG and 9th in AVG. Meanwhile the Tigers have the best AVG in the AL by a whopping 13 points, yet are only 4th in runs scored.
