MrTPlush

Literally one of the worst hires I have ever seen in sports. That White Sox team is filled with fun and exuberant players and to hire this (insert expletive here) is just a slap in the face to the fanbase. It would have been like hiring this guy when Braun, Fielder, Weeks, Hart and Hardy were coming up. Sure he WAS a great manager, but he's such an insufferable human that it makes rooting for Ken Macha easy. No, just no.

You can download the Bally app on a Roku device. I haven't felt the need to do that, though, as I can just watch the Brewers on the Bally Sports channel on AT&T TV. What are you going to use as your cable provider in order to access the BallySports app? Spectrum, figured I would probably get a Roku stick since I know that has Bally. Fire sticks are suppose to have it too, but of course I would have expected the smart TV version to have it too...but I guess that isn't the case.

I went out and bought a smart TV (Fire edition) and kind of figured it would carry the BallySports app since the little Fire sticks appear to have it. So either I am an idiot and can't find the app or it just doesn't have it. Seems hard to believe, but I have looked everywhere and it looks like that app just isn't on the TV to download. That being said what do people use for the little streaming sticks? Fire TV? Roku? They are the same price so I am not sure if either is really that much better. I basically just need one to get BallySports, the TV has YoutubeTV etc.

Don't agree with that, it is very easy to make incremental improvements that can help them at least score more than zero. There is no reason Shaw should continue to be hitting lefties on a regular basis since Green is in the system. Green isn't great but could hit lefties when necessary. He isn't, he has 4 starts all year in which it was against a lefty starter. Pablo Reyes has twice as many starts at 3B against lefty starters and he wasn't on the team till almost May. Now if you want to argue for Green over Reyes on the roster, have at it. I think I would rather have Green at 1B though. His 3B defense doesn't seem to be great and Shaw/Reyes have looked pretty good at 3B all season.

Luis Urias - .676 OPS Dee Gordon 2016 - .641 OPS 2017 - .716 OPS 2018 - .637 OPS 2019 - .663 OPS 2020 - .482 OPS I already see no reason to consider this and that is before we even consider Gordon's defense. He has essentially played no SS since 2013, when he was 25. In 2012 he had 18 errors...in 73 starts. Not that Urias is any better in that aspect...but Gordon is 10 years older now. Gordon probably isn't seeing SS without being on the MLB roster and all the other SS guys getting injured in the middle of a game.

"Brandon Woodruff has the lowest run support per nine innings of MLB's 65 qualifying pitchers: 1.58 RS/9." I totally forgot to check the box score this morning. 7.2 innings and all he got in return was three errors? Dude should have thrown a complete game loss. WOOOOOOW

As disappointing as Urias has been, offensively, he is better than Arcia. Urias has a .317 OBP...Arcia only had an OBP over .300 one year (2017) and every other year he wasn't even remotely close (not counting 2020). Urias is a bit of a disappointment on the defensive side of the ball though. I still really don't get dumping Arcia when we could have just sent him to AAA ourselves? Would have made sense to have an experienced SS if something happened...not to mention we seemed ready to dash him after a decent 2020 (not that I thought it meant much long term performance wise). Guess they really just wanted to sell high on him, I still find it absolutely comical we got some real prospects for such a terrible player. Oh well, they both kind of suck. I still have confidence Urias is notably better offensively and I am sure that is what the Brewers are after. Of course, it would be nice if he could at least be an average hitter.

Corbin Burnes record, that we endlessly followed, was strikeouts to start the season without issuing a walk. That record he still has.

Because it’s a position of depth. But it isn’t good depth

I thought the same...looks spotty around there and not like a long rain.

That was a quick tarp pull.

Why would we trade one of our only decent hitters? Don't we want more?

I haven't seen it mentioned, Nolan Arenado had a full no trade clause...I believe. So this entire discussion is likely pretty meaningless. I highly doubt Arenado would have left the Rockies for the traditionless-championshipless Milwaukee Brewers. If Arenado is picking between the Brewers and Cardinals...10 times out of 10 he is not coming here. Everyone is assuming Arenado would have had no choice other than to go the highest bidder....reality is he could pretty much pick wherever he wanted to go.

Your third scenario forces them to go to overtime, why? If they stop the Patriots why can't they 'drive and score' to win the game in regulation? Not to mention all Rodgers would need then is a field goal. Why are they forced to win the coin toss? Way to make that scenario seem more complicated than kicking the field goal when it is not. If you are forced to eventually get a TD in regulation most coaches would logically take their chance at the 10 yard line, especially when they are down 7 or less in that situation. You are still down one score if you miss. How can one be so confident in Rodgers MAYBE getting to ball back with 1:45 left and going all the way down the field against a Bucs defense with zero timeouts remaining yet they don't trust Rodgers to get 10 yards for a TD? Kicking the field goal first is putting trust in your defense to make a miracle stop and then turning around to have your defense have a miracle drive. Scoring the touchdown on 4th was a very reasonable outcome and then all you would need is the defense to not give up a field goal to at least extend the game. Neither of those things would have been that crazy to have happen. But stopping Brady, essentially on three downs, and then mounting a massive offensive drive...that seems a bit more pie in the sky. I don't care about how many steps it takes...what is the most likely and best chance of victory. I can't say kicking the field goal was the best of options for that.

The problem is even greatly increasing your odds or even being #2-5 in WS chances is still such low odds. If Attanasio could take our odds from 40% to 80% for a few years I am pretty confident the dude would do it. Unfortunately the reality is we could probably make our odds go from like 15% to 30%...we would still be an underdog by a great margin. This isn't the NBA, buying or building a champion on paper just doesn't really come to fruition in the game of baseball.

Here's the 2019 pitching thread, which has a lot of discussion on the topic... viewtopic.php?f=63&t=38008&hilit=2019+pitching Without reading through all seventy five pages, I feel like I remember a number of posters thinking the move was too aggressive & it would torpedo our 2019 contention chances & possibly the future development of Woodruff/Burnes/Peralta, neither of which has come to fruition. I also feel like there was quite a bit of "Fire Hook" chatter early in the 2019 season, which also would have probably been a bad idea with the benefit of a couple years hindsight. The impact of losing Derek Johnson seems to have been greatly overstated by some. While we did contend (and make the postseason) the trio did fail overall. Brandon Woodruff was the only success that year and he was the most obvious to give a rotation spot to. Freddy Peralta was horrible as a starter and then excelled when he was moved the the bullpen (a place many thought he should have been to start). Corbin Burnes was a colossal failure that year. To me I think the worries many had were confirmed in 2019 and it arguably did hold that team back a bit. Considering they lost the division by two games it could have been dramatically different of an ending had we not started those guys and found more relevant guys to pitch. Of course I don't recall our record in their 12 starts they combined for and our emergency scrapheap pitchers we trotted out (Lyles/Gio) had ERAs you would expect from Kershaw/Scherzer so I am not sure Burnes/Peralta never starting would have caused us to fair any better in the standings. Of course it is working out long term, which is probably what matters.

I liked the original uniforms when they got the new stadium. I thought they looked slick and very Miami-like. I was disappointed when they simplified them. These are a little out there though.

I don't think rich needs quotes. If they own a sports team they're actually rich. Depends on the team, but when we are talking building a half a billion dollar or more stadium people act like these owners can just whip it out of their piggy bank. Sometimes the teams are owned by groups or just not that wealthy of owners. While they are certainly rich, they don’t swim in money like many think. They are usually rich because all of their value isn’t sitting in a bank account, but working for them in different ways. I’d call someone with a 500k house in rural Wisconsin rich, but that doesn’t mean they can afford to even put 20% of the money for that home upfront. Difference is though a pro team owner can go bargain for the money they need and not go to a bank. They have millions in value to give and if they leave it all goes with them. And some likely could afford to build the thing with money in their bank account, but they don’t have to because of the power they have...us peasants do not.

While entirely true, on the flip side you may look back in retrospect and see some of the best Brewers teams to have a chance to win it all sputter in the wild card game or opening series because we never wanted to take a chance giving up good players in a trade. Not saying you are wrong. Personally, I am probably not much of a player for Trevor Story if it costed the near $30mil in surplus value the baseball trade value site gives him. Though, I don't think it would be that high. I am sure that value was determined before the season. 2-3 months of Story may be closer to half that. Probably looking at Lutz or Ashby as the type of headliner with a complementing piece or two. Hard to even guess trade values on rentals players though. Story isn't an elite bat generally speaking (he is really good for his position, historically) so it may suppress his value if teams aren't tripping over themselves for a .800 OPS bat.

Do people wish Rodgers ran to the three yard line because MLF said he would have went for it then? I can't recall. If you are Rodgers and think 4th down will be a thing regardless it makes complete sense to take a shot at a throw instead of getting to the three yard line. Once you get that close to the endzone it is almost better to be on the ten instead of the three. Being on the three yard line doesn't really open up the play book because you aren't going to run it from that far away. You have such little space to work with and there isn't much space for receivers to get open.

$18.5mil Trevor Story isn't going to cost the farm for 2-3 months. Especially when he isn't even hitting for an OPS over .800 right now. He isn't a cheap rental by any means...but rentals don't garner what they once did.

On paper the addition of Trevor Story and Jesus Aguilar would be a pretty big deal. Story is a pure rental and Aguilar would be a 1.5 year player. I imagine we will see Hiura again before the deadline to see if he can be the first base answer, but if he still sucks we shouldn't avoid a guy that is more than a rental at first base just because Hiura has nowhere to play in 2022 (if no DH is added). Combined they shouldn't be overly expensive and it would be a huge help to the offense. I admit, I haven't done much research on potential guys who may be available midseason, but that combination was the first that jumped out at me. Not saying I would or wouldn't do it, just because I haven't done a ton of research on deadline stuff, but one can't deny the help they would give us.

Pro teams bring in million upon million of tax dollars and do help local/state economies. These 'rich' owners are able to get money because they have something valuable to provide in the form of the pro team. The concept of giving tax breaks to rich companies etc. makes sense...unfortunately all too often they get way too much. This is especially true with pro teams when officials are desperate to keep them for the 'prestige' of having one. Though that may be a bit less relevant in the Oakland/California area that already has a flurry of teams around. Certainly a bit more of a thing when it comes to cities like Milwaukee.

Should be interesting to see how people think the Brewers should approach the deadline. Yelich back, plus Aguilar, plus Story would be interesting.

Trae Turner isn't a rental, nor is Jesus Aguilar. Each are arby eligible guys for 2022. Maybe you know that and are just referring to them as 1.5 year rentals...but just thought I would make that clear for others who might not have known that. Makes a big deal when it comes to price.