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  1. No not all arguments are on assumptions. One argument that he shouldn't be given a shot is simply because we have a lot better options than Suter for our rotation. That is just the reality of things. We are deep with solid starting rotation prospects. The only chance he gets a chance in the rotation is if he does well enough in spot starts to raise an eyebrow or two. Even then it seems like a long shot to even get a true chance.
  2. I highly disagree. The Dodgers were the only team the Brewers got that close with and the only other team on his no-trade list that has had interest is the Giants. The talks with the Giants didn't appear to get very far. It sound like talks with the Braves got pretty interesting(Chipper Jones getting involved), but Braun can block a trade there. Sure doesn't sound like there are many teams interested in Braun with the Dodgers/Braves being the only teams getting serious. Dodgers go a different route and its questionable if a deal would happen. Everyone thought Lucroy was all but gone before the season and he was here opening day.
  3. He didn't add any power this year though...actually his power was worse. The only real difference he has had is his K rate spiked the second he became a Brewer. The rest of his career he was a decent 20% strikeout guy and now he is near 30%. The other problem this year was the fact his BABIP nose dived from the .380 range to .310. No doubt in my mind he should be sent to AAA. He still had a solid year and has spent enough time at AA.
  4. Orlando Arcia will actually lose his rookie eligibility and prospect list eligibility with his next at-bat. He has exactly 130 and that is the limit. Interesting little factoid.
  5. Pretty much every team has a wasteland at the catchers position. If you have multiple promising catcher prospects that is incredible. They just don't exist. Mejia may be one, but he would cost a ton and a huge risk like any other catcher. If we find one great, if not we are like the majority of MLB.
  6. Teams still have their own big board and I am guessing when teams strategically are drafting underslot guys early they are taking guys lower on the board to save money...not always but I would think a lot of the time they are.
  7. That's my point. In order to do that you have to sacrifice the #3 overall player and settle for a #11-16 overall player. The Brewers had that option, and they tried it before - see 2014. Hasn't worked out well so far. If they would have went with players ranked at those slots (Turner/Beede/Newcomb at 12, A.J. Reed at 41) they would be a lot further ahead. The 2nd round overslot guys from that draft (Harrison, Blewett, Forbes, Morgan) aren't doing so well. And by having players do well, they were able to get one of the overslot guys (Supak) anyway. Then you have the Astros who settled for Carlos Correa and ended up with a golden draft combo of Correa/McCullers. A lot of times those #11-16 overall players are the real gems.
  8. Yup this is exactly why he was a top prospect in the first place...because of his back end of the bullpen potential. Sure isn't much of a surprise.
  9. Because my definition of "lacks power entirely" might be different than yours. Someone can have power potential without having the ability to hit for power in the present though. Some guys still have to fill out their frame etc. Regarding the power he showed in college it should be noted he did that with a metal bat. That can mean something or not. I know a lot of people were upset with the Corey Ray pick because they thought the power wasn't going to translate. Multiple people mentioned his homeruns specifically being of the wall scraper variety. Now I have no idea what McDowell looked like in college because I didn't watch him much like everyone else here(most likely). College stats can be very misleading so its hard to know how much to buy into those stats. I also don't know if there is a true trend of some players showing power in college and losing a lot of it when they go pro. I figure I hear enough people talk about it there must be something to it right? Of course I am not saying either of these things relate to McDowell. Just pointing them out.
  10. Not a ton to sell off at this point. Realistically Braun/Thornburg are the last meaningful pieces that could go. Unless you think they would trade Villar/Davies or think Guerra is a major piece.
  11. Care to disagree? He has shown zero power in his time and isn't all that young. Never said he didn't have power potential. I sure am not going to start putting 22 year old catchers slugging .350 on my Top 25 list. Doesn't mean I don't think they have potential. Sometimes players power potential becomes nothing more than that. Sometimes draft scouting reports end up being so wrong you wonder if they were watching the right player. Until he starts showing more promise on defense and starts hitting the ball harder he is not going to get attention. Really the best thing McDowell has going for him is that he isn't a guy who is going to be rushed through the system. He has the time to work on his defense with the T-Rats. He isn't like Nottingham where if his bat starts to show they will likely put him at a different position to get him to the majors. McDowell's offensive ceiling is low enough it likely wouldn't cause the Brewers to rush him on that alone. I think he should be talked about more than he is, but there sure are quite a few reasons why people typically don't talk about him.
  12. I don't think they trade him this offseason. Thornburg has put up elite stats. If he can be similar to this in the closers role next season he could have mega value at the deadline. At that point I think we either trade him away or try to get an extension with him. We either need to maximize his value on the trade market or make sure we can keep him around while we are competing. We have a lot of guys coming through the minors that look like they can be very good bullpen arms. Keeping Thornburg does seem like a huge need.
  13. Being a bit old for your league, slugging .350, and having pretty bad defense as a catcher is not going to garner you many votes. Also I don't have much data to back it up, but I think catcher typically post higher CS% in the lower minors and is declines as they go up. I just don't see him getting to the MLB level. I don't see him ever being more than an average catcher defensively best case scenario and he lacks power entirely. Not really what teams are looking for in a back up catcher.
  14. No because then Attanasio will think we can compete next year and ruin the entire rebuild.
  15. So it's absurd to say the Davis trade looks pretty bad or pretty questionable after one season, but you can call Stearns a "beast" and say he had an "outstanding year" before a bunch of guys even play a game at the MLB level? Alright then. I think your both being absurd. Does that help? That is fair
  16. I am very happy with his job overall, but the fact he traded a bunch of highly valuable players he inherited for good prospects is not something I find particularly out of the ordinary. Outside of the Rogers/Broxton trade most were fair returns, but nothing great. There are a ton of things I personally really liked: 1. Acquiring Jonathan Villar He saw a player from his old organization that he knew they undervalued and wouldn't mind getting rid of. His best move of the year by far. Exactly the kind of thing you want to see. 2. Claiming Junior Guerra Nothing like the Doug Melvin special. Dumpster diving at it's finest 3. Trading Jason Rogers Even if Broxton totally flops I love this move. He took a player with inflated value that had a low ceiling and just didn't fit. He wasn't really worth keeping around through the rebuild and sold high for a promising young player. 4. Trading Jeffress/Smith Two players with a lot of control and they are cheap which is not something you typically look to trade away. However bullpen arms had big time value at the deadline and Stearns wasn't afraid to trade not only one but two. 5. Seriously considering trading Ryan Braun A great sign he is looking to make this team young and competitive for the long term. A gutsy move, but a great sign to see out of the man in charge. Could blow up in his face, but you don't win championships without taking risks.
  17. So it's absurd to say the Davis trade looks pretty bad or pretty questionable after one season, but you can call Stearns a "beast" and say he had an "outstanding year" before a bunch of guys even play a game at the MLB level? Alright then.
  18. I'm not really impressed that he got such an improvement in the farm system. He inherited great/controllable players to trade and high draft picks on top of much of that improvement already in place. I could have done that and anyone on this forum could have done it. What matters is if the guys he acquired actually end up good. However moves like Villar/Guerra pat on the back. Those are Stearns defining moves. Not trading Lucroy/Jeffress/Smith for good players or drafting a good player #5
  19. The anti-Weeks? Ryan Braun was pretending to play 3rd base so he was moved to the outfield. Then he was moved from one corner outfield spot to the other...not a huge change. Mind you he got all off season to prepare for each of these moves. Rickie Weeks was asked to learn the outfield(a lot different than 2nd base) mid season with little practice to prepare. That just seems like a weird not so accurate comparison. That being said Braun has been very professional(minus that one time) his whole career. Acts the way you want, treats the fans how you want, plays how you want, and is just a great personality. It's a shame the PEDs and the whole debacle in general happened. It's that one, very big, black mark on what is a great career/person. Is what it is though.
  20. Most thought the Nottingham trade was acceptable because some scouts thought he had a chance to stick at catcher...however many scouts seriously questioned his future at catcher. We being fans of course took the positive outlook when first analyzing the trade hoping the later wasn't the case. Unfortunately a full season later it looks doubtful he will stick at catcher. Adding a brutal season offensively and things aren't looking so good for this move by Stearns(though he was young and has been rushed in his minor league career). It's OK though Stearns is human and will make mistakes. Some small and others quite large. If Nottingham flops it won't be the end of the world. Overall Stearns still had a fantastic first year from the looks of it.
  21. I love getting something for Davis too, but not when the return is looking not so hot and Davis arguably has more value now than he did
  22. The Packers comparison is just not right. Losing 3 games in a row in the NFL is a massive hit to ones overall winning %. Going 15-11 in September not so much. If we do the equivalent of losing 3 NFL games in a row then yah I'd freak out too because that would be like winning 20 games in a row. I had to assume you meant shut down Lucroy because you made it seem like what you wanted could have avoided a concussion. We could have played him one game in Seltemeber and he could have ended up with a concussion. The injury wasn't because he played to much. It was a freak injury.
  23. This entire season has been a lost cause so why wasn't there a fuss any other win streak in the year? However if we go on a streak right now we will hear about it for the next half decade on how the winning streak in September ruined the draft. That kind of thinking just doesn't make sense to me. I understand being frustrated, but I also realize that is baseball. However there are some, not all, that beat it to death for multiple years. Regarding sitting Lucroy last year no way. If I remember right that concussion was early September. We aren't going to shut down players(except some pitchers) 3-4 weeks before the season is done. That is just way too early to be doing that kind of thing. However if I remember right we did start sitting select players down and limit playing time towards the very end. It appears you want the Brewers to sit good players down and try to tank. Good luck I haven't seen any team try to do that at the start of September.
  24. At the end of the day the Brewers are going to try and win every game and end up with a certain record. Every team in baseball is going to do the same exact thing. It isn't like other teams are tanking and we aren't. If we end up with the #10 pick we were the tenth worst team and there were nine teams that sucked more. All teams have hot streaks and hot months. That's the reality of things. If we end up with a record of something like 15-11 in September that is not crazy. Even horrible teams will end up having a month long stretch of baseball where they do well. In my opinion that isn't playing over our heads because that is pretty typical even for a bad team to do one month of the season. The only situation where I could see one being upset with how we finish is if we truly just dominate in Septemeber like we did in 2012. Because it isn't typical for a team to be this bad and suddenly go 20-10 to finish the season. That is a true outlier and we clearly don't have the kind of talent that can sustain anywhere near that kind of pace for an entire season. Of course finishing 20-11 with this team is a lot different than in 2012. The 2012 was filled with veterans who were doing well at the end along with some rookies over performing because the league didn't know them. This team is all young guys that have been playing most of the year. At least some of them could carry that success into future seasons.
  25. Pretty much in the general area I would think each prospect will end up at. Only difference is I think Phillips stays on the list somewhere. Yes he had a down season, but scouts love him and so do the people making prospect lists. It also helps he has the big time defense to limit his floor which typically gives you bonus points on a prospect list. I am not sure about Clark. He couldn't even OPS .700 which is a scary thought. He might still be young enough to let that slide another year, but if the power doesn't show up he is going to nose dive as a prospect. I will say Trent Clark has an amazing approach at the plate for someone as young as he is. I think the hit tool will come around, but the big question is the power. With it he could be a really solid outfielder and without it he ends up a tweener type player.
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