SB, I posted this in the 4.00+ ERa thread but think it should apply here. I don?t think we need to force new posters into a certain way of thinking. We don?t want all posters to be similar thinking robots that only espouse WHIP, VROP, etc. That wouldn't lead to much discussion would it? It doesn?t take a working knowledge of stats to post here?heck it doesn?t even take agreeing with the statistical leaning of many of the stat-heads here. All it takes is basic decency, the ability to type and the ability to use somewhat acceptable grammar and language. I am skeptical of many of the stats you guys throw around and their predictive power and I am able to be a contributing member that can have civil discussions (for the most part). We don?t all have to agree/ think the same way?we do have to treat each others? ideas with basic human respect.