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Exactly, and very well put. Tomorrow, they come back in a much better position for the rest of the series than if they had rifled through arms in this game. "Lose the battle but win the war" is well known for a reason.
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I read somewhere the other day that they are 26th in quality starts though because they have a hard time going 6 innings. Relying on 4 innings from the bullpen five or six times a week is a recipe for disaster. THe bullpen is going to wear out. Currently they have three of the top ten relievers in innings pitched. This is out of another thread, but I think it's a salient point in this thread.
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That's a straw-man and is definitely not what's being proposed. It's been stated pretty clearly that the context was today's game, not every game. If we hadn't had a rash of short starts and more games than days coming up, it might be a different argument. I literally just took the exact thing you said and basically turned it around and stated it the opposite way and you call it a straw-man. No, you didn't. You're statement was that you ALWAYS play to win the game in front of you. My point was that, no, you don't always play to win the game in front of you. My point was never that you NEVER play to win the game in front of you which is what you're trying to pigeon hole me into. Big difference.
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And I guess that I would argue that that mentality is why so many teams run out of gas at the end of the year. If you’re unable to see the forest for the trees, it could hurt you in the bigger picture. Baseball is a marathon, not a sprint. Sometimes you’re put in the crappy position of having to choose to pass on a race to finish the marathon. I agree with this, but it seems like he Brewers tend to pass on the more-easily winnable races that could pad their lead. They need like a 15 game lead to hold onto it, assuming they will be entering their standard mid-summer swoon. They have the best record in the league, the can't have passed on that many.
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That's a straw-man and is definitely not what's being proposed. It's been stated pretty clearly that the context was today's game, not every game. If we hadn't had a rash of short starts and more games than days coming up, it might be a different argument.
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I strongly disagree with that viewpoint. A season is 162 games. If you continually play to win the game in front of you, you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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And if Hauser needed to be pulled after looking poor in the 5th inning, instead of now? Who pitches then? It just pushes more guys into the fire. Or, you leave him in to get shelled, which means the one AB that people are up in arms about and started this discussion is meaningless anyway.... Asher, if the game got away. If not, everyone should be available tonight. There just isn't a need to use them now because we're going to lose. In part perhaps because we let Miley bat for himself with a scoring chance in the 5th. You're assuming a positive out come from the pinch hitter and the back end of the bullpen is not a bunch of equally effective moving parts.
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Is it me or is anyone else nervous about how quickly Aguilar comes off the bag when taking a throw?
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Yes, that was a bit of hyperbole but I'm guessing you understand the point. I guess we just agree to disagree but I think the evidence is pretty obvious that the current state of the starting pitching isn't a sustainable situation without exposing some less than optimal choices out of the bullpen in critical situations.
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What would you need to see to believe it's true? They don't have a farm system where they can continually call up a Josh Hader. Short starts yes, but I don't think anyone believes that continuous four inning starts are going to cut it. You will (and they are) wear out the bull pen pretty quickly with that philosophy.
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I agree with all of this... The bullpen is starting to crack because they’re exhausted. I’m sure the value in the dugout is placed on SP innings at the expense of one AB. Exactly, particularly with the top of the order coming up.
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A starting pitcher has to go more than 4+ innings at some point this week. The limitations of this roster are being pushed right now and that is exposing the weaknesses. If they have first and third with one out and Thames and Cain coming to the plate, I expect a run.
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Luck-EEEEE
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Well, at least we've found another mid to back end starter that doesn't have the ability to put hitters away so he nibbles and ends up walking a bunch of bad hitters.
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With the top of the order coming up, there should have been a run there. Except with Thames at the top of the order it is not a typical top of the order. He is a huge K risk and that experiment should really be over. He's a top of the order bat, a run producer. Runner in scoring position with one out and your run producers coming up, a run should be expected. If you're argument is that it shouldn't be an expectation in that situation, then this team has bigger issues.
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With the top of the order coming up, there should have been a run there.
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Pathetic. Can't use the excuse of the bottom of the order not getting on. That was on the top of the order.
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I won't pretend to know more than the guys in charge of this club, obviously, but I sure don't understand how a guy like Wade Miley is here and Brandon Woodruff can't get an extended look. They weren't sure if Suter was going to be able to go for the double header Saturday. I think Woodruff is/was being held back in case Suter can't go on Saturday.
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HEY! Kratz walked into one.
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I'm sure he would if he could. He isn't very good.
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Miley fits right in
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Just wow!
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*sigh*
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Two on but a pitcher due up.
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Don't we normally have a lineup by now or am I missing it.