If Chacin continues to pitch like he has the last 3-4 times out, he will have a solid amount of value at the deadline. Albers is obviously hit and miss, but if he goes on another run of good outings, his contract is cheap enough that he will have value as well. Telling you to get a clue was definitely wrong. But I think in this case, saying those pitchers have no value is wrong as well. And Bailey was dealt for a former 1st rounder and that A's 17th ranked prospect. That isn't middling. I am amazed they got that for Bailey, even though it still isn't much in terms of top organizational talent. Middling, was probably the wrong word. I stand by Albers and Chacin bringing back essentially nothing. 5 ERA starter/reliever rentals do not have a big market for buyers. In Albers' case he's already coming off a poor year and hurt by that. Chacin has a not particularly cheap salary, if you're getting back anything you're also dumping salary. If you were a buyer, especially knowing we have to take on salary too, would you give up anything of real value for these guys? Do the 2019 versions of Jhoulys Chacin and Matt Albers make any contender better? I never said if we dumped them that they wouldn't get new teams so I don't know why he went spewing on about that, although frankly, they both would have a chance to clear waivers because of their salaries. Hernan Perez cleared, I wonder who would have called him worthless a month ago? My point was never that they couldn't be dumped but they'll bring back total nothing burgers in terms of value and therefore shouldn't be lumped in with names like Grandal or Moustakas, that's all I was saying. I guess I just disagree. No harm in that. I think if Chacin continues to pitch well, the Brewers will get back a solid prospect for him. Dependable starting pitching is always valuable, and Chacin has enough of a track record that teams will look past his first half struggles if he puts up a few more good outings before the deadline. The remainder of his salary isn't going to be an issue. Albers is a tougher sell, but if he pitches well over the next two weeks, I think he brings something better than a nothingburger too.