Ron Robinsons Beard
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You do realize the AL team was the Yelich trade right? He can't give us every single correct detail pretty obvious why he can't. cough his source cough. Dude has been pretty spot on. Pretty sure the AL team was a potential deal for Santana ... which could very well still happen. I don't know why but I have a feeling there might be a flurry of activity this weekend, starting tomorrow.
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I was skeptical as well, but he's nailed a lot more than he's lost on, and he's been specific enough to prove to me he's in the know. Plus, it's Hot Stove season, and this adds to the fun. I know I've appreciated reading the posts.
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Slightly different? Odorizzi is going into his age 28 season and has two years left of team control. Davies is going into his age 25 season, makes peanuts and has four years of control. That's a pretty big difference.
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Brewers were in a lot different place when they traded Lind for those rookie leaguers. Much more a "win now" philosophy. That said, we have no idea if Broxton for Corbin is even an option. If it were truly a case of either/or, considering where the team is at currently, I'm taking the lower upside sure thing over the potential, but very unlikely high upside The type of return that Broxton is likely to get, I think you kinda have to assume Stearns did the best he could. If he gets 2 young 17 year olds, a solid relief arm, a 1 year expensive mid-back rotation rental like Corbin...whatever the return is I'm sure Stearns will have done fine. This isn't a Santana/phillips situation where it's fairly important that if either player moves...we get starting pitching back in return. I get that. It would likely be a spare part-for-spare part kind of deal. Corbin, coming off a mediocre year, and in the final year of his deal, would qualify.
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Brewers were in a lot different place when they traded Lind for those rookie leaguers. Much more a "win now" philosophy. That said, we have no idea if Broxton for Corbin is even an option. If it were truly a case of either/or, considering where the team is at currently, I'm taking the lower upside sure thing over the potential, but very unlikely high upside
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Well, he also just posted that according to his source, the team isn't expected to make a big free agent pitching acquisition. That would fall in stark contrast to a bunch of other sources, so we'll see. But if they are looking to firm up the rotation via trade for one or two starters, the farm system is going to take a serious hit.
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This was posted at 11:35am this morning. I've heard others say it's not a credible source but haven't this account been on the money for some of the deals being made? Yeah, some here have said its a bogus account, but he nailed the Yelich deal a week before it was announced, and I think he got Cain as well.
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Your minimum threshold is a guy that went 12-4 with a 2.74 ERA last season? Tough crowd! I would say Corbin's upside is similar to Anderson's.
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Plus, if he pitches well, the Brewers could extend a qualifying offer his way, and recoup a supplemental pick if he bolts. I'd say that's worth Broxton.
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I'd be down with that. Perhaps this is the "HOT" smaller move speculated about last week? Arizona is hot, right? The straws I'm grasping at are getting pretty short.
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Well, that's something. Likely means there are potential moves on the table, and the Brewers brass needs to decide to sign off on them. Ball could be in their court now. Of course, could be a planning meeting for Spring Training logistics, too. But its more fun to think a big deal is on the horizon.
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Perhaps it is ... but that doesn't change the fact that the team has decided that it is a contender, and Stearns is going to construct the roster with that in mind, whether we like it or not. Pitching acquisitions are going to happen, very likely in the next couple weeks. Instead of arguing whether they should happen, which probably isn't feasible at this point, we should be arguing who they will be.
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If the team signs Arietta or Cobb, they surrender their 4th rounder ... the round Burnes was drafted in two years ago. That's on top of the $100+ million contract. So free agency is not the be all/end all either. I think they will probably sign a free agent (losing that pick) and make a trade (losing a haul of prospects), and posters here will be upset about both. But it will position this team to be a contender for the next 4 years, which is why you have a farm system.
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It has been pretty firmly established by multiple sources that "stand pat" is not an option whatsoever, so advocating for that is a fools errand. Obviously Stearns sees a need to strengthen the rotation, and he will find some way to do it. It's a matter of who they get, and what they give up.
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Ok, throw out another option that the team can trade for and throw in as the #1 or #2 in their rotation.
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"Could" is the operative word, and considering the Brewers' success developing TOR pitchers over the last 20 years, and the sheer amount of "coulds" that have flamed out or haven't lived up to expectations, what are the chances that Burnes reaches Nelson's level as a strong #2/borderline #1? 10%? 5% Less than that? Now if the team had the Cardinals' or Braves' track records for developing pitchers, that would be one thing. But I'm jaded by our history. For every Nelson or Ben Sheets, there are dozens of Taylor Jungmanns, Eric Arnetts, Will Inmans and Mark Rogers. So if the question is whether we should deal one or two of our "coulds" for proven MLB talent, I'd lean toward yes.
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I think Rosenthal's comment confirms that HighHeat is on the money (again). I will admit I was skeptical of the inside info leading up to the Yelich deal, but I've been turned. As for Rosenthal's tweet, you're probably right. He's just trying to start a conversation in an offseason that, other than one week ago today, has been dead. I do like that a national voice is using the Brewers to keep the baseball conversation going. If I were a fan of some of these other teams that have big holes to fill, I'd be going crazy. The sheer number of upper-end free agents who are still out there is mind boggling ... and that has trickled down to the point where a lot of the role-player types are still going to be searching for jobs after camps open.
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If not a closer, he might be a seventh or eighth inning guy. And he can even pinch hit....in a pinch. If he proves to be a capable MLB-caliber reliever, don't discount this. Kieschnick flamed out pretty quickly with the Brewers, but he had some very good pitching appearances with the team, and hit several clutch bombs. I always thought his use was mismanaged by Yost as well.
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That is well and good, but every indication out there says the Brewers are going to acquire at least one more upper-end starter somehow. I don't think "stand pat" is even an option at this point. They are going to get at least one, if not two, and are going to pay a lot of money and/or prospect capital to do it. It's just a matter of who, and at what price.
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There's the true question. Nearly everyone saying that Archer isn't an ace (arguable) or even a TOR starter (less arguable) has yet to come up with a pitcher that the team can feasible acquire that is a bonafide ace. Not "ace potential", these posters seem to want a bonafide, ready-made ace. My argument would be that there are absolutely none available, and Archer is the closest you are going to get to one. Does that mean the team should give up a haul and "settle"? That's the argument. Is Archer going to provide enough of an upgrade over a guy like Woodruff? Does he match up better than Chase Anderson in an NLCS against Kershaw? I'd answer both those questions with an affirmative yes. Because not only does he slot in at the top of the rotation, he kicks your other quality pitchers – Anderson, Davies, Chacin and eventually Nelson – down a notch, giving them better matchups.
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Well, this seems to throw a little water on the fire: @Ken_Rosenthal Sources: #Brewers, casting wide net for SP, have had recent contact with #Rays on Archer. Deal would appear unlikely. TB might not view Santana or Phillips as enough of a centerpiece for a controllable ace. MIL might not want to cut deeper into its farm system after Yelich trade. Cool to see that Rosenthal calls Archer an ace, though. That stands in stark contrast to a few arguments here.
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Braun would be a downgrade in RF compared to Phillips for sure, but probably on par if not an upgrade on Santana. Santana had a higher BA, OBP, and SLG than Braun last year. As Santana moves into his prime, and Braun continues to age, I see no reason that wouldn't continue. Santana isn't a good defender, but at this point, neither is Braun. Santana was a 3.0 WAR player. i'd put good money on him being a 3.0 to 3.5 WAR player again this year. I don't know that Braun is going to be that kind of a player going forward anymore. I thought the argument was just making the comparison defensively. I totally get where you are coming from when you bring offense into the mix, but JosephC's argument was that Braun brings negative defensive numbers pretty much anywhere he's moved, but especially to RF. I argued that he'd likely be better defensively out there than Santana. Although I do think it is possible that Santana is young enough to still show defensive improvement as well. -
I think that's the kind of money Neil Walker is looking at too. If you could grab Walker and Lucroy for less than $10 million per season combined, sign me up for both.
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Well, they just lost their arb hearing with Betts, so they are shelling out an extra $3 million there. I imagine that would remove them from any interest in Braun (if he'd even accept a trade there). I think Santana makes sense there, though. $3 million is going to stop the Red Sox from making a splash move? Yep: https://bosoxinjection.com/2017/11/03/red-sox-2018-payroll-update/ Heck, if the Dodgers are worried about it, the Red Sox are.
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I assume it's because Boras is his agent, and the team would have to surrender a draft pick to sign him. But it sure would be awesome to see the Cubs lose out on Darvish, and see the Brewers sign Arrieta.
