Are we really gonna do this? Anyway, FWIW, I don't think they're "toast," necessarily; in this division, I still think they have a chance. The Lopez deal makes me think Doug thinks the same. But I do think they shouldn't give up a ton for a guy they'd control only through the end of the year. It's a crapshoot right now I think, despite being relatively high on the team still. And trades aside, just one of Hardy or Hart or even Hall finding some stroke would be a huge improvement. Now, if they can get a stud they control through the end of 2010, I do think it's worth their while to strongly consider it if there's a feasible deal while we have Prince and Braun and Yo all here.