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Article: Do the Brewers Need to Trade Christian Yelich?
jay87shot replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I'd look at it more in games (there are 486 games for the OF), obviously it is hard to predict injuries so that would change everything. Yeli 60 games (80-90 at DH), Frelich 140 games, Mitchell 140, Taylor/Ruiz 110 games, Perkins/Weimer 36 games. This is assuming Mitchell and Frelich both hit lefties ok, the more I look at it the more I just want Yeli at full time DH with Ruiz, Frelich, Mitchell in the OF everyday and then Taylor take one of the lefties spots for lhp and spot starts for Ruiz. Maybe Weimer gets a chance to start if/when someone gets injured.- 96 replies
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Article: Do the Brewers Need to Trade Christian Yelich?
jay87shot replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Yeli went from a 1.2 to 2.7 WAR in 2022. My guess is that almost all of that is after he took over leadoff. I feel like there are way to many people making it sound like Yeli was a heaping pile of trash. Yes, he probably will never be a 7 WAR player again and worth the $26 mill per year. He is still an average-ish defense left feilder with speed and maybe a little power can come back (he did hit one 499 ft hr last year). To say that contract is worse (or could be worse) than Chris Davis is a stretch. I don't think anyone would be surprised if he hits .280 with the shift off. Yeli will be an above average player for at least 3 years and if he DH's he will be at least an average player for those 6 years. That being said it would be nice to trade him and be able to resign some of our stars. I wouldn't add him to a Woody/Burnes trade and lessen those pitchers value. Anthony Rendon would have been the only bad deal I would have considered and now that they have Renfroe so they don't need an OF. If the Nats were better Corbin or Stras could make sense (especially if Stras gets healthy) but with the Nats rebuilding that won't happen. Eventually (maybe 2 years) someone like Trevor Story might work.- 96 replies
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I would think the Dodgers keep Lux, I would perfer Michael Busch anyway. Michael Busch, Ryan Pepiot, Emmett Sheehan, Caleb Ferguson Busch would make an interesting MI combo with Turang and could fall back on 1B if it doesn't work defensively. I would start Pepiot as the 5th starter and move Ashby to a early Hader type role to at least start the year. Sheehan is a quality and imo underappreciated prospect and Ferguson provides a late inning LHP option. I would offer Willy like 5/83 (9/14 and 3/60), if he wants a bunch more years or AAV, I would be perfectly fine sending him off for a solid package (at least twice what we got for Hader).
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Robocaller’s 2023 Payroll Blueprint Post Renfroe
jay87shot replied to Robocaller's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
I'd trade Burnes and Adames seperate if they both go and that way we could maximize return. Adames for Vargas, Pepiot, Barnes Burnes for Cartaya, Miller, 2 more mid level pieces. I'd want a bit more in the Woody deal maybe switch DL Hall for Bradish. If we blow it up like this may as well trade Williams as well. -
I am just saying that dreaming on potential that could be were they are. I am not anointing anyone. Mitchell has a lot of power, it just that his swing is not tailored for big HR numbers at all. The HR numbers don't indicate it but if you look at his body type and strength there is easily a 30 HR potential in there. If you look at Yeli through his rookie year you never would have said he has a chance to hit 44 HR. Mitchell is similar but with 20 or 30 pounds more muscle (not sure how heavy 23 yo Yeli was).
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I guess I could see him making the team if we part with Taylor and go with a 3 rookie OF and Yeli as the primary DH. I think I like Weimer's potential best out of the 4 AAA OF. Definitely a 30/30 potential guy who could win a gold glove. I would think he is 4th in line however to start with the big league club, however not by much and camp/trade could trade a lot. It is crazy to think of each of the 4 OF potential, 5 if you count Chourio. Weimer .270/.350/.850 30/30 with 5+ WAR. Frelich .310/.375. 10/40 probably 4-5 WAR depending on defense (I think stats will show him a high end lf and slightly above average cf. Ruiz .300/.355. 15/50 probably 4-5 WAR like frelich. Mitchell .280/.350/.825 20/40 maybe 30 hr potential if he improves launch angle. 4+ WAR. Chorio ??? .300/.400/.900. 30-40/30-40. 7 WAR depending on body development. It might be interesting to see if Mitchell can maybe pick up 1st base.
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Article: Where Does the Roster Stand Post Renfroe Trade?
jay87shot replied to Nate Palmer's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Renfroe was our best hitter but he was still not a solid 3/4 hitter. .255/.315/.807 29 hr 72 rbi. Is very solid but he hit .236 with runners in scoring position. For comparison Rowdy .264, Willy .301, Taylor .311, Cutch .264, Yeli .242/.429 obp, Wong .202, Urias .168. How many times did we have runners on 1st and 2nd with 0 outs and we hit into dp's or back to back k's, it seemed like an excessive amount. Getting better middle of the order bats and guys like Frelick, Turang, Ruiz, and Mitchell should drastically reduce that. I am OK with trading Wong and a pitcher if it means we can find a couple more middle of the order options to go with Willy and Rowdy. -
Article: Where Does the Roster Stand Post Renfroe Trade?
jay87shot replied to Nate Palmer's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Renfroe was our best hitter but he was still not a solid 3/4 hitter. .255/.315/.807 29 hr 72 rbi. Is very solid but he hit .236 with runners in scoring position. For comparison Rowdy .264, Willy .301, Taylor .311, Cutch .264, Yeli .242/.429 obp, Wong .202, Urias .168. How many times did we have runners on 1st and 2nd with 0 outs and we hit into dp's or back to back k's, it seemed like an excessive amount. Getting better middle of the order bats and guys like Frelick, Turang, Ruiz, and Mitchell should drastically reduce that. I am OK with trading Wong and a pitcher if it means we can find a couple more middle of the order options to go with Willy and Rowdy. -
Perkins is just AAA depth, just because he sign a mlb deal doesn't mean he will make the roster. It just means we will have to use one of his options out of camp. This guy is Jonathan Davis 2.0, maybe a little power developing. The Jonathan Singleton to the 40 man is still confusing me however.
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I think it kind of depends on the true finances of the team for the next couple years. If Mark A. keeps it at $130+ I would say he is the most likely to go. If the ownership has to bring salary down I would think Burnes is the most likely to go this offseason. On the stat front, Lauer's end ERA could have been better but a start against the Rockies late in the year really hurt him (7 earned in 2 2/3). I don't know where to find it but the number of swing and misses he had on middle middle fastballs was amazing. I would definitely look to trade him while his value is high and his 2 years of control mean more. We should be able to get a near top 100 prospect for him and something else like a quality reliever or possibly a solid position player with a similar 2 years left. Lauer for Jansen would work well Lauer for Yandy Diaz Lauer for Alex Kiriloff Lauer for Jose LeClerc and a solid prospect Lauer for Scott Barlow Lauer for Mark Vientos Lauer to SF for Casey Schmidt (3B SF) and a prospect probably a bunch more good ideas
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I think it kind of depends on the true finances of the team for the next couple years. If Mark A. keeps it at $130+ I would say he is the most likely to go. If the ownership has to bring salary down I would think Burnes is the most likely to go this offseason. On the stat front, Lauer's end ERA could have been better but a start against the Rockies late in the year really hurt him (7 earned in 2 2/3). I don't know where to find it but the number of swing and misses he had on middle middle fastballs was amazing. I would definitely look to trade him while his value is high and his 2 years of control mean more. We should be able to get a near top 100 prospect for him and something else like a quality reliever or possibly a solid position player with a similar 2 years left. Lauer for Jansen would work well Lauer for Yandy Diaz Lauer for Alex Kiriloff Lauer for Jose LeClerc and a solid prospect Lauer for Scott Barlow Lauer for Mark Vientos Lauer to SF for Casey Schmidt (3B SF) and a prospect probably a bunch more good ideas
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1) Burnes to Atl for Contreres, Ian Anderson, Victor Vodnik. Justin-Henry Malloy and lotto ticket prospect. 2) Trade Estuery Ruiz, Ethan Small, and Tyrone Taylor for Trevor Rogers 3)Trade Eric Lauer and Hedbert Perez to Baltimore for Jordan Westburg 4) Renfroe to Tex for Jose Leclerc and prospect (tex pays 2 million of Leclerc) 5)Trade Wong to Seattle for 2 prospects 6)Sign Jose Abreu 2/42 7)Sign Raimel Tapia 1/1.5 incentives 1)Frelich 2)Yeli 3)Abreu 4)Contreras 5)Tellez 6)Willy 7)Mitchell 8)Westburg 9) Turang Bench) Urias, Brosseau, Caratini, Tapia 1)Woody 2)Peralta 3)Anderson 4)Rogers 5)Houser Pen=Williams, LeClerc, Bush, Vodnik/Strezlecki, Cousins, Milner, Guerra, Ashby That lineup would be sick and we could have 4 top of the rotation starters if all things go well. Add in all the high end arms in the pen with some decent depth. C: William Contrares ($0.7M) 1B: Jose Abreu ($21M) 2B: Turang ($.7M) 3B: Westburg ($.7M) SS: Willy Adames ($9.20M) LF: Christian Yelich ($26.00M) CF: Frelich ($0.70M) RF: Mitchell ($.7M) DH: Tellez ($5.3M) Bench OF: Raimel Tapia ($1.5M) Utility: Urias ($4.2M) Utility: Brosseau ($1M) Backup C: Caratini ($2.8M) SP1: Rogers ($.7M) SP2: Brandon Woodruff ($11.00M) SP3: Freddy Peralta ($3.50M) SP4: Anderson ($.7M) SP5: Adrian Hauser ($3.60M) CL: Devin Williams ($3.20M) RP: Leclerc ($4M) RP: Matt Bush ($2.00M) RP: Ashby ($1M) RP: Hoby Milner ($1.10M) RP: Vodnik ($.7M) RP: Cousins ($.7M) RP: Guerra ($.7M) Payroll is 17.38% under budget
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I agree with the idea that Willy should be a great at 3rd defensively, but ultimately this all comes down to Turang. The organization should know well enough if he is going to handle 2B and transition to SS or just take over right away. I think from Willy perspective SS would be better, he has a chance(s) to win a gold glove at SS but I doubt at 3rd he would win one over Arenado or Hayes. That being said I don't think Willy would be one to make a big stink if it was best for the team.
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I agree with the idea that Willy should be a great at 3rd defensively, but ultimately this all comes down to Turang. The organization should know well enough if he is going to handle 2B and transition to SS or just take over right away. I think from Willy perspective SS would be better, he has a chance(s) to win a gold glove at SS but I doubt at 3rd he would win one over Arenado or Hayes. That being said I don't think Willy would be one to make a big stink if it was best for the team.
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Article: The Brewers could find catching help in Atlanta
jay87shot replied to Nate Palmer's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I would pass on Manny, if he was a free agent and we could get a minor league deal I would say yes in a heartbeat. I just wouldn't give up anything for him. D'Arnaud would be interesting, I wouldn't give up a major prospect (top 8 or so). I like the Renfroe idea, maybe Lauer would work as well. Contreras and one of Vaughn Grissom or Kyle Muller, would be the start of a good Woody or Burnes package. I doubt the Braves would do something like Lauer, Mitchell, and a lesser piece for Contreras but that would be optimal in my book.- 17 replies
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Article: The Brewers could find catching help in Atlanta
jay87shot replied to Nate Palmer's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I would pass on Manny, if he was a free agent and we could get a minor league deal I would say yes in a heartbeat. I just wouldn't give up anything for him. D'Arnaud would be interesting, I wouldn't give up a major prospect (top 8 or so). I like the Renfroe idea, maybe Lauer would work as well. Contreras and one of Vaughn Grissom or Kyle Muller, would be the start of a good Woody or Burnes package. I doubt the Braves would do something like Lauer, Mitchell, and a lesser piece for Contreras but that would be optimal in my book.- 17 replies
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jay87shot’s 2023 Payroll Blueprint
jay87shot replied to jay87shot's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
1) Kikucki has great stuff and our staff has had success with guys tweeking small mechanics, grips, or adding a pitch and making a difference. I just used Ray as a reference as a guy who had the stuff and struggled but something small changed his results. I am sure you could put in a top 10 prospect in the Jays system instead and then sign a pitcher. I didn't put it in the numbers but I am sure we could get the Jays to pay off some of his 2/24 to make it more favorable since he has a career 5 era. 2) Diaz is awful at 3rd but has a +2 drs in over 900 innings at 1st in his career. The bat would bring a ton of consistency to the team and play from 2-5 in the lineup. Diaz was worth 3.5 WAR last year and thats with -5 drs at 3rd, if he would continue average work at 1st that is a huge improvement over Rowdy. I get Rowdy should get some pick me up with the shift but I doubt it's 3 wins worth. 3) I really meant any higher end lefty reliever, Matt Moore, Taylor Rogers, Will Smith, Andrew Chafin, Brad Hand, Aroldis Chapman and maybe some righties with good splits who could fit the 4-8 million price range on a 1 or 2 year deal. I just picked a younger Marlins pitchers, I like Sanchez's upside but acknowledge there is a large risk. I am sure you could switch in a different starter with a little adjustment. Maybe even a reliever like Tanner Scott would work. -
1)Pickup Wong Option 2)Extend Woody (6/115, 11,16, 4 at 22) 3)Trade Burnes to Tor for Moreno, Tiedmann, Yusei Kikuchi, Tanner Morris, and lotto type piece 4)Trade Adames to Dodgers Vargas, Pepiot, Emmett Sheehan 5)Trade Rowdy for Sixto Sanchez 5)Trade Yandy Diaz for Estuery Ruiz, Justin Jarvis, a PTBNL (mid level) 6)Trade Houser to Ari for Seth Beer and Bryce Jarvis 7)Keston to Detriot for a prospect 8)Sign an experienced lefty pen option Britton 1/6 with incentives for games pitched that goes to 1/10. Start with a 6 man rotation with Pepiot, Ashby, and Sanchez piggybacking 3 spots. If things go well end with a 5 man and make the odd man/men out high caliber relief pitchers. Tiedmann (Gasser/Sheehan) could be ready at some point too making lots of end of the year high end arms and depth. I feel there is a Robbie Ray type jump possible in Kikuchi if he can hone in on accuracy and cut the long ball. In this case our pitching team has done well and would reap some value (we could even get Toronto to eat a little of his salary). Diaz, Vargas, and Urias split 1B/3B, I put Diaz at 1st and Vargas at 3rd because Diaz is a slightly below average 3B to give the young guy a shot. Urias and Taylor get plenty of ab's as key reserves. Also Yeli can step in and play OF occasionally. We also would have a bunch of money and prospect capitol to make a big move at the deadline if need be. I get that 5 rookies in everyday positions isn't reasonable or likely but with an experienced bench I think it could work C: Moreno ($0.7M) 1B: Yandy Diaz ($6M) 2B: Kolton Wong ($8M) 3B: Miguel Vargas ($0.7M) SS: Brice Turang ($0.7M) LF: Sal Frelich ($.7M) CF: Garrett Mitchell ($0.70M) RF: Hunter Renfroe ($11.20M) DH: Christian Yelich ($22M) Bench OF: Tyrone Taylor ($2M) Utility: Luis Urias ($4.5M) Utility: Brousseau ($1M) Backup C: Caratini ($2.8M) SP1: Woodruff ($11M) SP2: Yusei Kikuchi ($12M) SP3: Freddy Peralta ($3.50M) SP4: Eric Lauer ($5.20M) SP5: Pepiot ($0.7M) CL: Devin Williams ($3.20M) RP: Strezlecki ($0.7M) RP: Matt Bush ($2.00M) RP: Brad Boxberger ($3.00M) RP: Hoby Milner ($1.10M) RP: Zach Britton ($6M) RP: Aaron Ashby ($1.00M) RP: Sanchez ($0.7M) Payroll is 14.54% under budget
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I don't mind the 2 years until FA to much, I think Diaz wouldn't be crazy expensive in trade value and could be a guy that if he plays solid an extension wouldn't be to overbearing.
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I don't mind the 2 years until FA to much, I think Diaz wouldn't be crazy expensive in trade value and could be a guy that if he plays solid an extension wouldn't be to overbearing.
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Willy is a good SS, last year he was worth +9 runs, for the rest of his career he has been around slightly above average. The case would be that if Turang is really a plus defender at SS, we wouldn't lose anything defensively and then we would improve 3rd tremendously by putting Adames there. When we potentially lose Adames it would be an easier transition because Turang wouldn't have to move.
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Willy is a good SS, last year he was worth +9 runs, for the rest of his career he has been around slightly above average. The case would be that if Turang is really a plus defender at SS, we wouldn't lose anything defensively and then we would improve 3rd tremendously by putting Adames there. When we potentially lose Adames it would be an easier transition because Turang wouldn't have to move.
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