I was never hazed when I started here Nor was I, and I barely knew what OPS and WHIP were, while I'd never even heard of VORP, FIP, OPS+, and many other stats. Still, I didn't come out and say "those numbers are all stupid, he's a crappy player and that's it". Instead, when someone argued with me, I'd respond with "tell me how you came to that conclusion", and they may or may not have been right once I looked into it. Sometimes you start out with what you don't think is a position popular with sabre dudes, and find out that it's actually supported. I remember a debate I got into when I came here over a player who had good OBP, but I saw something in him that troubled me - it turns out later that my exact point was that he had "old player skills" and was declining because of it - but I didn't know that was actually a validated phenomenon.