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Reading up on a couple cases really briefly, I believe once a ball is hit out, it's considered "abandoned property" since MLB hasn't generally made it a priority to recover them. Even so, I don't think the ownership of the ball is really the issue here. It's the tact used in giving it back to a player that it genuinely means something to. -
When will TLR order the first beaning?
Invader3K replied to SeriesFinale's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Kendall has that look in his eyes like he would snap and mess someone up in a fight, big time. Otherwise I think McClung would be the runaway favorite. Trevor Hoffman also looks like he might be a pretty good scrapper. -
That would be really cool especially with the minor league players, since many of us have never even seen some of these guys.
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Actually, I noticed glancing at HY's blog he'll sometimes catch a ball, then throw another ball out marked "Cubs suck" or whatever. So that way he can both keep the memento and please the fans at Miller Parks. Basically he gets to profiteer and look like a real fan at the same time.
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Especially since he's also a cop. Or didn't you hear him say that already?
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I don't get this logic. Teams used to constantly walk Bonds. What makes Pujols any different?
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I think it is him catching it...I think he threw on his yellow shirt and Marlins hat after the fact.
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Oh geez. It's no secret that drinking is a part of most college life. I would say, don't be the freshman who gets hammered at a kegger, clogs up one of the bathroom stalls on your own floor, and then pukes all over your dorm room floor before climbing up to your bunk, smashing the window when you fall over in the process, and then collapses unconscious in his bed. Yes, a roommate I had actually did that. I ended up sleeping in the floor lounge that night, and when I returned to the room the next morning, the janitor who was cleaning up the mess asked if I did it. Oh, and the next morning I had to get my wisdom teeth removed, so I was in a really great mood for that. True story.
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Yes, we do live in a capitalist economy. However, does that mean every time you have an opportunity you should be as exploitative as possible? How about just saying "Hey, I had a cool moment and got a little something in return", in exchange for happening to be lucky enough to catch a home run ball and get on TV? Why is it necessary for a grown family man to hoard baseballs and gouge players to get them back, when it will mean much more to the player than this "fan" who is only wearing the opposing team's gear in an effort to trick them? The second line you quoted is just being a tad ridiculous in throwing out the ol' straw man argument. Obviously no one is saying fans shouldn't be able to sit out there and catch balls. I think it's just the sense of entitlement and "me first" that is rubbing a lot of people the wrong way.
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This brings up an interesting point. I wonder how Padres fans are feeling, knowing their team chased off a future Hall of Famer who is having a dominate start to the season thus far?
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Why should the salary of anyone involved be a factor? Oh, because HY brought it up to bring sympathy to himself, I guess. I don't think changing the rules regarding balls leaving the field should be necessary. Hopefully incidents like this are few and far between. If one person is causing issues often enough, maybe teams will take a look at whether they want that person in their park.
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"WHY? I just don't understand this position! Why is there any obligation to think about the poor ballplayers feelings and wishes at all?!? If you're a ballplayer and you jack your first homer into the stands, especially on the road, you gotta be thinking, "Dang, I wonder what it's going to take to get that one back" and then be prepared to negotiate in a fair (NOT STINGY) way. The fact that he came out of the dugout saying, "Are you going to give me MY ball or what?" is an outrage. He should be happy that HY didn't just head home at that very moment." There is no obligation. I guess if someone wants, they can go through life just thinking about themselves and how to take advantage of others around them whenever possible. However, there's such a thing as class and human decency. Considering how long it took to "negotiate" with HY to get the ball back, and how Coghlan had just finished playing a game and probably just wanted to finish up in the locker room and head home, I don't think it's surprising the player would ask if he was finally going to give it back at that point. (added italics to quote --1992)
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1) People need to realize that everyone has verious hobbies. Just because you don't do it or don't have any interest in that specific hobby, that does not mean that hobby is pathetic (as some have said). - I don't think anyone has a problem with someone collecting balls. Again, it's the method being discussed here that many are taking issue with. 2) The ball is worth as much as the person who owns it, thinks it worth. I am sure the ball has some meaning to Happy as well so to get it away, he might have to get something a little in return. I remember when I caught my first and only homerun ball many years ago. I would not have traded it for 10 signed bats, as to me, that was something that was extremely valuable. - This is true. But at the same time, you have to see where the player is coming from. It's a special moment for him. Supposedly he was planning on giving the ball to his mom as a gift. To make him go and ask for stuff from other players just seems to be exploiting your position. "I have something you want, I'm going to make you go well out of your way to get it back, because I can." Acting like that is going to leave a bad taste in people's mouths. I don't see why that is so hard to understand for a few here. 3) I would think as fans and media, and I am talking moreso the radio spots I heard, we would have better things to discuss with how hot the Brewers have been. - I think we can discuss more than one thing at a time on this board. Do we really always have to walk on egg shells when we post here? (fixed code --1992)
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I don't think it's blowing it out of proportion if it seems to be discussing a known pattern displayed by someone.
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Top Notch Starters at Deadline
Invader3K replied to Hate those Rodents's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Has there been any word on how he's doing right now? The last I heard he was rehabbing in Texas, and it seems inevitable that he'll sign with the Rangers. I wouldn't get hung up on him coming back to the Brewers at this point, either way. -
Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. He pretty much just pops up when his own name or something related is mentioned for the most part. Anyway, he has a blog dedicated to his escapades and this has been written about in the media a couple times now. The fact that he occasionally posts here shouldn't preclude this from discussion. Like I said before, yes, it's technically his "right" to ask for extra things in return for a ball he catches. I also think it's the right of other people to form their own opinion of him based on those actions. The fact that he seems to use his profession as some kind of justification or shield from criticism doesn't exactly improve his image in my mind.
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Basically, he can act how he wants with this stuff, but I think it's more than fair to say that others will form their opinions based on his actions. I just think it's really silly and tacky. Matt Vasgersian (or whoever, I don't remember or care) gave him a nickname during a game broadcast in an off handed way years ago, and he's run away with it like he's been anointed the biggest fan of the Brewers out there...then he runs after balls and dresses in other teams' attire. The whole extortion of players for as much merchandise as possible is way over the top. It just seems really lame to me. It's just a baseball...don't act like you just found the Golden Ticket. If I was friends with this guy, I'd be acting like I didn't know him right now. It's also really amusing how everyone mentions he's a cop, like that somehow makes it OK. There is probably a ratio of nice guys to jerks in any profession, whether they're putting their lives on the line or not.
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Investment firm, actually.
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Good. Hope he keeps it up and gets kicked out eventually.
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1. Go to those campus and dorm "mixer" events, even if they seem lame. It's a good way to meet people. 2. Get involved. Join your residence hall association, or other campus organizations. Again, it's a great way to meet other people, and do something meaningful with some of your free time. 3. Be yourself. Don't pretend to be someone you're not, and you'll fit in just fine. 4. Don't go home every weekend (unless you really have to). Campus can be a lot of fun when it's less crowded. Go to sports games, weekend events, etc.
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Maybe if they renamed it "FSN Baseball on Crack!" it would get better ratings and they could bring it back.
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Seems like I remember seeing him at a few games in the beginning of the year, and since then haven't seen him much. I'm sure he's following things pretty intently back in LA, though.
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Yeah, not exactly a flattering story, though I'm not surprised given his reported shenanigans after Geoff Jenkins tried to get his 200th home run ball from him. The guy caught a home run ball...it's not a winning lottery ticket. That's all I'll say on this.
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I completely disagree. Nelson had a legit chance given to him, and he failed. It's too bad, but that's what happen. Then to generalize that the Brewers do this with most or all of their "mariginal prospects" is just really reaching, in my opinion. Are we supposed to go back to the days of the earlier part of this decade when the team had marginal guys starting regularly?
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Yeah, the "Back to the Minors" one with the South Carolina Buzz. It was pretty bad.
