True. And really, my long story above is irrelevant. My original point was......that a ballplayer appearing at a charity event, press there or not.. it is part of his job. Sorry, no "class act" points for showing up early, staying late or being nice to kids, babies or fans. Is Suppan a "class act" for giving the thousands that he "donates" to charity? Thats all part of his huge contract. That money comes from the brewers (and indirectly you and me). Funding Brewers sponsored charaties and making public appearances is part of the job. I agree that people of wealth/fame have some obligation to participate in charitable causes. However, I also believe that some of these people go above and beyond what is reasonably expected of them. Also, I'm not sure that I agree that the money that Suppan/Counsell/any Brewer gives to charity comes from the Brewers and indirectly from us. You could say this about anyone who gives to charity. I write a check to a charity, which comes from my employer, which comes from my employer's customers, which come's from their employers, which comes from their employer's customers and so on and so on. Just because you give to charity, does not mean that everyone that touched that money is also credited to giving to that charity.