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Here's a blog from JSOnline on why the Brewers didn't bring in Cordero: http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2007/09/20/why-yost-decided-to-use-wise.aspx If he brings in Cordero and he pitches two innings and the Brewers don't score, he has to come out of the game. Then, if the Brewers score after that, he has nobody to close the game. That's why Yost refuses to use his closer on the road in a tie game, like it or not. The part in bold is what absolutely closes my mind. "If the Brewers score after that, he has nobody to close the game." Why doesn't he? Are Capuano, Aquino, McClung, and Wise definitely going to give up runs before they can record 3 outs? Is it impossible for them to come into the game with a lead? If they are definitely going to give up runs, wouldn't it be better for it to happen when we have the lead, rather than when it's tied and we'll definitely lose if they score? Are baseball managers so infatuated with the concept of a "save" that breaking that flawed logic is just taboo??
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I would just like to point out, that I do not recall one game this season where the "save your closer" rule that we've employed on the road, has worked out in our favor. Not one. I think it may have happened once in the first week of the season. And again, I think you can explain the flawed logic with simple mathematics: A. Margin of error tied on the road in extra's: 0 (you give up a run, like Wise did, and it's game over). B. Margin of error leading in extra's: >= 1 (could be 1 run, could be 5) So, please, tell me, why is situation A a situation for any closer, whereas situation B is a guy where you NEED your best reliever? Let's say CoCo comes in in the 10th. He shuts the door. The Brewers score 1 in the top of the 11th, and then Wise comes in during the bottom of the 11th and gives up a run to tie it back up at 3. Now, "conventional wisdom" says I'm going to be furious at Ned for blowing Cordero in the 10th, and not "saving" him for the 11th when we had the lead. But I'm not. Why? Because, it is very simple, if Wise gave up a run in the 11th, you can assume he would have given up a run in the 10th, and had he done so, the game would be OVER. At least now, it is still tied, and we still have a CHANCE to win, but had we SAVED Cordero for the 11th, there would never have been an 11th, because Wise would have given up the run in the 10th. Again, tell me how the above paragraph does not make sense, because it makes perfect sense to me. The only possible logic for not using your closer early in extras is to save his arm for another day. And at this point in the season, savings arms be damned.
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I agree with Yaz. We were Yosted once again, as much as the apoligists want to say otherwise, why would you do it??? Why would you leave Bush on 1st base when you know he's not staying in the game anyway??? Does Bush have some kind of blazing speed that we were never informed about??? Because if not, we should have been up 5-4 going into the bottom of the 9th. Face it, Yost was caught with his head in the clouds in the 7th inning, I just don't know another reason to explain it.
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9/19/2007 Milwaukee (Bush) at Houston (Gutirrez) 7:05 CDT
adambr2 replied to ELCABALLO45's topic in Archived Game Threads
is that really true, i haven't noticed that it has been so long. Yep, the last road sweep by the Brewers was June 28th-30th, 2004, in Coors Field against the Rockies. The Brewers opened up the first 2 days of 2005 with 2 wins at PNC against the Pirates, but I don't know if winning both games of a 2 game series is really considered a "sweep". Either way it hasn't happened in a LONG time. -
9/19/2007 Milwaukee (Bush) at Houston (Gutirrez) 7:05 CDT
adambr2 replied to ELCABALLO45's topic in Archived Game Threads
Brewers streak without a road sweep: 3 years, 2 months, 21 days Please end this now!!! -
This was the last straw for me. I'm not counting on him anymore. If he can stay healthy, wonderful, but I am through believing that he can. This is the most crucial time of the year for us, and after being ineffective in his last 2 starts, he broke down again. I am really sick and tired of Sheets being about as reliable as a thin sheet of plexiglass. I have tried to stick by him, but enough is ENOUGH. I don't care how many innings he threw in '04 and before that, his reliability then obviously wasn't a very good predictor of future health, because he hasn't been remotely reliable in 3 years. If he can't get a full healthy season under his belt in '08, let him walk rather than give him a huge extension. No matter how good he can be, we can't continue to rely on him when he's like this.
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Ned trying to pull the right strings, Shouse did his job, Linebrink not so much. This would be a just devastating loss.
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That wasn't Molina's fault in the 1st as much as Ludwick, who decided it would be fun to strike out with 2nd and 3rd and 1 out. Then in the 2nd, Ryan decided it would be enjoyable to pop up to 2nd with 1st and 3rd and 1 out. I hate the Cardinals so much right now. Their last gasp chance, at home, a veteran team, and they're making Brewer like mistakes and literally handing the division to the Cardinals.
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That wasn't Molina's fault in the 1st as much as Ludwick, who decided it would be fun to strike out with 2nd and 3rd and 1 out. Then in the 2nd, Ryan decided it would be enjoyable to pop up to 2nd with 1st and 3rd and 1 out. I hate the Cardinals so much right now. Their last gasp chance, at home, a veteran team, and they're making Brewer like mistakes and literally handing the division to the Cardinals.
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Another untimely error, another classical example of how overrated Hardy's defense is. I've heard gold-glove caliber thrown around. He's not even close.
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Uh, it's 3-1 Brewers. No idea why it said that for a minute.
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Nice going Ludwick. Way to chase one in the dirt with 2nd and 3rd and 1 out against Marshall. You'd have parked that in the bleachers against us.
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Suddenly I really hate the Cardinals. I figured a veteran team, season on the line at home against the Cubs, last chance to turn it around, would find a way to rise to the occasion like they did to us in late July. But they're smoked. The Cardinals are done.
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Wow. I thought it was 4-3.
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Suddenly, this game is very, very crucial. Best case scenario tonight, we're back to within a game of the Cubs. But the Cardinals looks like they're toast for the season. It would be nice if they had ANYTHING left in them to scratch out 2 more games. Worst case scenario, we're suddenly 3 back and fading fast.
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Nice DP for the Cardinals. Only 1 run across in the 1st for the Cubs, thank God, it looked like they were going to put the nightcap away in the first inning.
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I'm no moderator but I know political arguments aren't allowed. Not yelling at you, just saying let's keep the topic specific on baseball. Separation of baseball and state is necessary. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif
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I actually e-mailed him, just had to. Here was what I said: Your article about Troy Tulowitzki being the clear choice for Rookie of the Year reeked more of homer sports journalism than any article I've ever seen. I can only conclude that you were simply trying to play to the hometown fans rather than this being something you really believe. Tulowitzki is a nice player and in another year, would probably earn ROY. Tulowitzki isn't in Braun's league. The fact that he had 40 more games to accumulate his stats this year, let's compare stats, but instead of picking and choosing the ones that you did, let's consider the ones that Braun leads in, too. Braun: .328 AVG 30 HR 79 RBI 1.020 OPS 14 SB Tulowitzki .290 AVG 19 HR 80 RBI .820 OPS 7 SB These numbers aren't even comparable, and they don't even take into consideration that Tulowitzki plays at Coors Field, one of the most hitter friendly parks in the country. Tulowitzki's splits differ greatly home vs. away, while Braun's are virtually identical. Tulowitzki's fielding abilities aren't nearly enough to make up for Braun's landslide victory in almost every offensive statistical category. This isn't even a race, and believe me, you'll see this when the NL ROY voting ends up in an absolute landslide for Braun. Also, using Tulowitzki turning an unassisted triple play had to be the biggest reach I've ever seen for trying to come up with something to support him. That's like trying to tout a guy for MVP on the grounds that he hit an inside-the-park grandslam during the year. Come on. You can do better than that.
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Nah, sorry, I should've been more clear. Brewerfan.net 'ers are usually pretty educated fans. I wouldn't be surprised if it was suggested by a few here that we just give upon Weeks earlier this year, but in general, I'm sure that wasn't the reaction. But from what I've seen and heard off radio shows, other boards, etc, yeah there were a good chunk of people that were ready to throw him under the bus.
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Weeks now has a .381 OBP as a leadoff man this season. Of the 27 players in MLB with at least 300 PA's leading off, he's 5th in that group in OBP, right behind guys like Ichiro, Hanley Ramirez, etc. This is in a year where he has pretty much struggled the entire season. So I can't understand whatsoever why some people really don't believe that he is a significant part of our ballclub's future. And to those who wanted to unload Weeks for whatever we could get and give up on him, that's just comical. If we really wanted to unload Weeks, we could get a damn good return for him. 2B is a premium position. If you can get a player of Weeks' caliber at 2B, it's huge. In the NL, Utley and Kelly Johnson are about the cream of the crop. There are plenty of teams out there that would jump at the chance to make Week's their 2B of the future.
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His wrist injury wasn't the type of injury that he could worsen by playing, or that would have the healing process slowed down by playing. It was just an injury that required him to play through a great deal of pain. I would definitely say the wrist pain was hampering him, and preventing him from taking the ball to the opposite field. I think he is closer to 90-95% now, and I believe that a fully healthy Weeks next year will be a vital part of this offense.
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I've never heard that you could revise your roster between rounds. Not sure about the Wainwright case. To my understanding, no player is eligible for the playoffs unless they were on the 25 man roster as of August 31st. So that would make Rottino ineligible.
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Can't believe no one has said Gary Sheffield. We owe him a beanball or two.
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Plain and simple. I think he's just more comfortable knowing he's starting a game every 5th day, rather than coming out of the pen, warming up every day, and being put into unexpected situations. It worked for the first half of the season, and then he just started to tire from the everyday grind. I think starting every 5th day and nothing more, he can be easily groomed into a guy who can throw 110 pitches effectively every 5th day. I'm not just basing this belief on this season. He has succeeded in this role almost every time he has been put into it. Twice this season and a handful of times last season. He's a starting pitcher. I look at him as kind of an improved version of Vargas. We know he'll give us 5 or 6 strong and we'll almost always be in it. But I think we can count on at least 6 most outings once he gets his arm strength built up. CV should have a spot in our rotation next year. He'll be a great #4 or #5 and at his age, will only improve. If we're not going to put him in the rotation next season, we should trade him.
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The owner of the team got to see us get our worst Yosting of the year firsthand. And he got to see how 30,000+ people felt about it, before it was shown to be a bad decision.