78-86, 77-85, same difference :-) I find it hard to believe that 70-some win Brewers team with Greinke will draw many more fans than a 70-some win Brewers team without Greinke. People will go to games in the summer no matter what and the stadium is going to be empty in September if they are out of the race. The main concern should be 2013 season ticket renewals. I haven't been to Miller Park this year, what does the "average fan" think when they announce the lineup and sees that 50% of the starting 8 makes Yuni B look like an all-star in comparison. I find it hard to believe that any unbiased observer would think that mid-season moves could save the season. Everything is compounded because they were already playing bad before the injury bug even hit--if this team was a few over .500 right now and trying to hang on despite injuries, I would have a different outlook. But instead they have to first get out of a giant hole before even thinking about contending. I don't know if this team would have contended without injuries, but I suspect they would have at least competed. At least with a quality roster there is always hope that guys wake up. Now, the roster is full of players that belong in Nashville--not just on the bench, but starting every day! And they aren't even highly regarded prospects either, just 4-A or journeymen. At this point, the least they can do is start Taylor Green every day.