I also have a tender place in my heart for Kul beer out of La Crosse. Lots of that during the college parties as well... Beautiful, Hammer. Were you a screaming eagle too? Kul reminds me a lot of water, but I love water. Also out of City Brewery in La Crosse (although probably not of much help to you out in Portland, TLB - guess you'll just have to come back for a visit): - La Crosse Lager - actually fairly tasty - La Crosse Light - actually extremely disgusting, but you get what you pay for - Golden Leaf - wheaty, but delicious - City Winter Porter (seasonal) - I'm not a porter guy, but I can enjoy it - Festbier (seasonal) - genuine Oktoberfest style all-malt lager. It's a little rich, but come oktober... when in rome. On a slightly related topic, if any of you get the chance to head up to La Crosse for the Oktoberfest festivities, you won't regret it.