I am still trying to wrap my mind around the idea of an All-Branyan v. All-Sanchez game. The most interesting aspect of this proposed matchup would be a bench-clearing brawl. BA is worthless. A .250 hitter can be really good or useless...that's the definition of a stat that means nothing. I disagree -- when used in concert with other stats BA has a use. Case in point: Thus, I can't really put much weight into, say, Counsell's 2007 OBP. There should be some way to weight the fact that he bats #8 so frequently. Agreed -- Counsell has about as many hits as he does BBs, and as Valpo astutely points out, they are primarily to get to the pitcher, except in the cases where the pitcher hits better than Counsell. Whats bothering me here is that people are saying "Counsell has the 4th best OBP on the Brewers" as if he has offensive value. Also stats like walk/K ratios don't hold a lot of water for a guy like Estrada who doesn't do either very often. I have to admit, I am first and foremost a Tigers fan. I think they have 12 step programs for this. -- (Great posts!) Urbina was getting into drunk fights on the plane, Let's not forget lighting people on fire for using his hot tub... And so far, it looks like Yost is fostering an agressive, winning attitude. Let's hope so -- although I am ready to dial back the agressive baserunning a bit. It is hard for me to compare Leyland and Yost, Leyland has taken 3 different teams to the post-season, Yost I think, has a few more corners to navigate (bullpen management). We may have some very knowledgable people on this board, but we also have quite a few emotional ones. Its a long season guys, relax a bit. Let's not pretend that the "Knowledgable" and "Emotional" sets do not intersect on the BFnet Venn diagram. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif