Having an objective conversation about video game manufacturers sure is a challenge these days. When you mix MS hate and and Sony and Nintendo love, things get a little crazy. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif Wasn't the Gcube on par with the XBox and more powerful than the PS2? I didn't really play much of the Gamecube (Mario party, Zelda and Mario Kart was about it) but my understanding was that it had nothing that compared to Halo 2 type graphics. What Gamecube games pushed the graphical power of the system? As I tried to make clear, my point wasn't that the 360 is durable or the wii isn't, just that expectations should be adjusted to a certain degree for both. I've never had a single problem with a Nintendo console but those devices have all been relatively simple, so I just keep that in mind when making comparisons. Sony's and MS's consoles have been pretty cutting edge, console-technology wise, so I'd expect more problems with them. There's just more things to go wrong. Is that a silly assumption to make? I support Nintendo because their systems just plain work. I support Sony because even though their track record isn't as good as Nintendo's, everyone of their products I have personally owned works for years, while every Microsoft product I have ever owned has not worked well. How many MS products do you own, other than their operating system? What other hardware? You aren't exactly coming across as unbiased.