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This season gets worse and worse...

Don't have the game yet... i would love to join, but may have to wait for another league. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/frown.gif

Found some more.... "Would anyone swap Corey Hart for Edwin Jackson?" "Jackson's 'breakout' was just the Rays improving on defense. His K/9 is hovering just over 6 and he still gives up too many BB's. He is Dave Bush with worse control so I personally wouldn't want him." "Dave Bush wishes he could throw high 90s heat like Jackson but I can see the comparison you're trying to make. I saw Edwin Jackson come in against the Redsox a couple days ago and strike out 4 in 1 1/3 innings. When I see the type of stuff he has I see a guy who could be a star in the league as a closer which is where my interest comes from. Hes still young so whos to say theres no chance he cant cut the walks down and increase his strikeouts? " "Hell no Jackson still allows tons of baserunners and only truck out 108 hitters in 183 innings, along with walking 77 batters. " "Nope. But I would swap something else to obtain Jackson. I have read on various blogs and websites that he may be available this offseason. He does walk to many, but he has flat out electric stuff. Perhaps Maddux could harness his control like he did with McClung. "

It seems Robert was at least open to the idea more than most that commented on Edwin.

There has been some comments recently about why didn't Melvin get Edwin Jackson. I was curious and did a search for Edwin Jackson and Matt Joyce to see comments about them BEFORE this season. Here is what I found. "Still don't understand why people want Edwin Jackson. He had a mediocre minor league career, has below average strike out rate and a terrible walk rate, his GB% is ok but nothing special." "I wouldn't want Jackson as a centerpiece of a deal, but he certainly has some value, albeit I think he was helped out by his defense this year. That said, he's still fairly young, has a plus arm, and has had success at the major league level in a tough division." "Some people look at his actual stuff instead of his Strikeout and GB rates and see the potential the guy has. I wanted to trade Corey Hart for him so we can upgrade RF with a LH bat that increases our OBP that can maybe even bat leadoff. I viewed that as a good swap because I heard someone talk about a potential Edwin Jackson for Randy Wynn deal on another site and I thought how about Corey Hart instead of Randy Wynn.? I dont think as highly of Corey Hart as alot of the people do around here so Id rather trade him now while he has value even if it is selling low instead of seeing him going down the Bill Hall path and have him become untradeable." "It wouldn't exactly be shocking if David Price was a full 2 wins better than Edwin Jackson. Of course, injuries could happen and young players could regress, but the Rays still look like solid favorites to me. They very well might be a team I'd put money on to at least win the division if I was in Vegas." "They added a very good DH in Burrell and the acquisition of Joyce is very underrated." "I'm not really interested in Jackson at all. He hasn't been any better than a bunch of the guys who were pitching in the 4/5/6 spots for the Brewers last season." "The only pitcher the Rays would trade I think is Edwin Jackson. And I wouldn't mind getting Jackson in a deal. But not for Prince or Hart. Jackson has electric stuff, but needs to cut down his walks. If he does that he could be special." "I love the Dodgers as a fit, but they have been nortoriously stingy with their prospects. They rarely let them go until they have flamed out. (See Hanrahan, Jackson and Laroche to name a few)" There were mixed reviews of Jackson on this site, there wasn't even a topic made about the trade of Joyce for Jackson when it happened. Seems like there wasn't much uproar before the season started.

his bat right now is barely passing for a SS, much less a 3B.

You should be paying me for all the hours I could be spending doing something productive!!! Thanks BF.net, I am glad to donate to a wonderful cause.

I believe it is wins above replacement (with an average player). So, if he is worth 3 wins, I think it means that a team of average players plus Prince would be 84-78, rather than 81-81. Right concept, wrong starting point. A team of replacement level players would not win 81 games. I believe a team of replacement level wins about 60-65 games, it may even be lower. According to baseball reference, a team of 9 Prince Fielders batting (assuming average Fielding and Defense) would account for a .764 Winning Percentage this season. For reference... Braun .737 Lopez .601 Counsell .542 Hart .521 Pujols .802 Mauer .825 Hall .249

Josh Prince cannot be traded... He was just drafted this season. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

I just think it will be open competition in Spring Training, and Lucroy will win, IMO.

I think they need to keep both next year. One (probably Lucroy) gets a shot in the Majors. If he fails miserably, there needs to be a backup plan. Trading one of them this off season would be a mistake.

Not that i'm advocating trading prince now... but Invader, why do you say Gamel shouldn't be in the discussion to take over for Prince at 1B?

As soon as I get mine, I'll let you guys know. We should definitely start a league up.

Sadly... I think Suppan is a lock to be on the team as well, I just don't know in what role.

Is anyone going to be doing a PS3 league? I'd be interested.

Just got my copy... well, i just ordered it via a subscription to Sports Illustrated. Pretty good deal and I can't wait to start an online franchise!

I'm not too sure how he's going to look in a red sox uniform....

I am so happy that we were able to sign those three guys today. This is a great job by the front office committing some large dollar amounts into the future of the brewers. Davis, Hall, and Gennett will be fun to follow these next few years. (As well as the many other picks the Brewers were able to sign this year!)

I have no problem with this, i guess. It is actually statistically the correct play. However, the rest of the lineup isn't set up correctly for this move. I really believe the only reason Macha is doing it is to rub it in the face of Melvin for making him play Escobar.

Who gets called up will HIGHLY depend on our position in the standings at the end of the month. If we don't improve over the next few weeks to within 2-4 games out, I bet they bring a bunch of the kids up and have them play. If we improve our position in the race, they will keep the younger guys down and not waste their service time.

Unreal... if anyone can start FireMacha.com, that'd be fantastic. What a joke...

If Escobar doesn't start every game, FireKenMacha.com needs to begin.

haha... whoops. I went to public school, reading was never a priority. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

Just a quick note... Lasker has given up 3 ER in his last 7 appearances, in a total of 29 IP. Over that span, he has given up 21 hits, while walking 1(!) and striking out 25(!).

So many posters think anyone that isn't Mike Cameron has no shot to help us in CF. That list starts with Braun or Hart playing there, then TGJ, then Patterson, then (insert name). I guess I am just not sure where this team would be without Cameron and with ten million dollars added to our rotation. Clearly, they'd be able to pull off a sub .500 record. Just to be clear, I love Cameron and think this team would be no where without him, but I'm trying to get into the head of Doug Melvin and Mike Cameron. Do I think they both want to make a deal to keep him here? Yes. Do I think they agree on a dollar amount, probably not.