Turang if you can get a reasonable Marte-esque type extension(not quite Marte given Marte was closer to FA, but 7/90+2 TOs... maybe). 

Misi- I'd 100% do right now. 8 years 100M 2 TOs for 25M per. Yeah, I know he's a pitcher... and I'd still do it. People use deGrom as the "what if" in terms of healthy. Look at his first 8 years. 

Made- Mis is 1A, Made is 1-1- I'd give him a Chourio type extension... though I imagine it'd be more expensive. Maybe 8/80+2 TO at 20M with a 10M buyout and MVP, incentives, give him the chance to earn 8/100. 

Contreras-I'd float a 5 year 75M extension... but I think we're too close to FA for that to be viable. 

Frelick would be a contingency plan as I don't think Turang or Mis will sign. American players are less likely to... though with a pitcher like Mis, still gotta try IMO. He looks like he's just going to keep getting better. 


Ultimately, I suspect Made will be the most likely and we're too late on Contreras and probably on Turang. I'm also just not afraid to pay a guy into his 30s. I'm afraid to pay him into his mid 30s or late 30s, but 32-33? Not at all a concern. 

Uribe-I'd go 8/40+2 TOs at 12M AAV. 

And the answer was... Cooper Pratt! 8 years, $51M with two club option years.  Very interesting... seems like this will lock him into the MLB club next year like it did Chourio. 

1 hour ago, CheezWizHed said:

And the answer was... Cooper Pratt! 8 years, $51M with two club option years.  Very interesting... seems like this will lock him into the MLB club next year like it did Chourio. 

 

He'd have been in my top 15 guesses, but near the bottom!

You usually don't extend a guy who... isn't really ready to play at the MLB level! I mean, I think he could give you what Ortiz did last year(mostly)... but this type of deal?

What the hell, I'm all for extending as many young players as possible. I honestly think if you sign as many young players as you can to these types of deals, even if you get a few who don't live up to their potential, you still come out on top... I mean, if it's reasonable. I think Pratt's floor is a very good defensive SS/3B who can hit for some power and put up a ~700 OPS. That's a fairly negative outlook, but... that's worth this deal. 

I doubt the Brewers believe that's the player he's going to be. 

(By the way, a player I forgot was Quinn Priester... I wouldn't be shocked to see him extended for ~6/45+2 TO and some incentives based on IP and... maybe CY Voting, top 10-15). 

18 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

He'd have been in my top 15 guesses, but near the bottom!

You usually don't extend a guy who... isn't really ready to play at the MLB level! I mean, I think he could give you what Ortiz did last year(mostly)... but this type of deal?

What the hell, I'm all for extending as many young players as possible. I honestly think if you sign as many young players as you can to these types of deals, even if you get a few who don't live up to their potential, you still come out on top... I mean, if it's reasonable. I think Pratt's floor is a very good defensive SS/3B who can hit for some power and put up a ~700 OPS. That's a fairly negative outlook, but... that's worth this deal. 

I doubt the Brewers believe that's the player he's going to be. 

(By the way, a player I forgot was Quinn Priester... I wouldn't be shocked to see him extended for ~6/45+2 TO and some incentives based on IP and... maybe CY Voting, top 10-15). 

Pratt was a surprise to just about everyone.  If I compare ceilings and floors of our top 3 prospects (excluding Jett as he is "new" to the org):

• Cooper - his defense gives him a high floor and his physical attributes give him a decent ceiling, but performance has been a bit limited offensively. 
• Made - Certainly a much higher ceiling.  His floor is probably similar, though his D seems to be a touch less. 
• Pena - Higher ceiling offensively than Pratt, but lower floor given his defense and some struggles before he hit AA.  

I think Made is really they one they would normally target for the Chourio treatment and maybe he will this fall?  Or maybe Made passed on it so they turned to Pratt?  

I can certainly see less bust risk with Pratt over Pena.  

I like Priester, but I don't see the upside with him.  I think he will make a strong #3/#2 level SP and be the workhorse type player, but not quite the TOR SP you would generally target to tie up.  

7 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

Pratt was a surprise to just about everyone.  If I compare ceilings and floors of our top 3 prospects (excluding Jett as he is "new" to the org):

• Cooper - his defense gives him a high floor and his physical attributes give him a decent ceiling, but performance has been a bit limited offensively. 
• Made - Certainly a much higher ceiling.  His floor is probably similar, though his D seems to be a touch less. 
• Pena - Higher ceiling offensively than Pratt, but lower floor given his defense and some struggles before he hit AA.  

I think Made is really they one they would normally target for the Chourio treatment and maybe he will this fall?  Or maybe Made passed on it so they turned to Pratt?  

I can certainly see less bust risk with Pratt over Pena.  

I like Priester, but I don't see the upside with him.  I think he will make a strong #3/#2 level SP and be the workhorse type player, but not quite the TOR SP you would generally target to tie up.  

I guess I don't get why they're doing this when a guy SHOULD probably be playing a year in AAA yet. Is this more like a 7 year deal with 2 TOs and... then you get into the whole 2027 lock out. 

It's just a weird time for me, but, again, I'm such a fan of these moves that I'm not going to question it too much. 

12 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

I guess I don't get why they're doing this when a guy SHOULD probably be playing a year in AAA yet. Is this more like a 7 year deal with 2 TOs and... then you get into the whole 2027 lock out. 

It's just a weird time for me, but, again, I'm such a fan of these moves that I'm not going to question it too much. 

One thing that I really like about Arnold (and the Brewer's front office) is that he tends to zig when people zag.  A bit of the Moneyball concept in that they find value in places where others don't.  We can't compete with the $$ other teams throw at players so they are being very creative in how they build the team...and have been very successful lately.  Most wins in the majors last year AND one of the top farm systems despite drafting low and not handing out the largest International bonuses. 

These contracts will obviously be judged over the next 10 years... but it is being very creative. I hope they get Made in the fall too. 

13 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

One thing that I really like about Arnold (and the Brewer's front office) is that he tends to zig when people zag.  A bit of the Moneyball concept in that they find value in places where others don't.  We can't compete with the $$ other teams throw at players so they are being very creative in how they build the team...and have been very successful lately.  Most wins in the majors last year AND one of the top farm systems despite drafting low and not handing out the largest International bonuses. 

These contracts will obviously be judged over the next 10 years... but it is being very creative. I hope they get Made in the fall too. 

Fortunately, he has hit on the other big signing -- Chourio.  Is there much room for error?  I hope he keeps up the track record.

Made is the easy choice, Miz is the more interesting choice.

On 4/14/2026 at 12:51 PM, Brock Beauchamp said:

Made is the easy choice, Miz is the more interesting choice.

Misiorowski is just going up and up in value... and I would guess we've already approached Made and were too far apart(as it sounds like we were with Mis). 

There's a lot of "call Made up now" momentum on X or other places... and I'd actually be alright with it... IF we had a 10 year 120M extension in place. The kid would become a FA at 29 and get paid now. If it takes 140M, I'm fine with that also. Get him time at 3B also. 

But no shot would I call him up now just so the Brewers can watch him get the first Billion dollar TV deal when he's a 25-year-old FA SS. 

8 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

Misiorowski is just going up and up in value... and I would guess we've already approached Made and were too far apart(as it sounds like we were with Mis). 

There's a lot of "call Made up now" momentum on X or other places... and I'd actually be alright with it... IF we had a 10 year 120M extension in place. The kid would become a FA at 29 and get paid now. If it takes 140M, I'm fine with that also. Get him time at 3B also. 

But no shot would I call him up now just so the Brewers can watch him get the first Billion dollar TV deal when he's a 25-year-old FA SS. 

Made hasn't taken a single PA in Nashville yet, and he only has about 100 PAs in Biloxi. Calling him up seems like a pretty bad idea.

On 4/21/2026 at 7:04 AM, Brock Beauchamp said:

Made hasn't taken a single PA in Nashville yet, and he only has about 100 PAs in Biloxi. Calling him up seems like a pretty bad idea.

Yeah, but he's special. I think it's a really stupid idea without a contract, but he's showing everything right now. More walks than Ks, hitting the ball hard, can handle the velo. I don't think AAA does a whole lot for prospects like Made other than give them a place to play so we can say they need to work on something for 2 months before getting called up so we don't lose a year or service. 

I think he'd both be better than Ortiz(though I'd be playing him at 3B) and I don't think it'd ruin his confidence. 

But I have a feeling the Brewers would have gone to Made before Pratt when talking extension. 

Also, if you look at the two guys ahead of him, they played no AAA ball. They played partial seasons in AA and they got the call. 

Again though, I would not consider it without locking in those extra years of control. Otherwise you're just getting a couple years where he's figuring it out and losing what could be, if he develops the way we think, MVP caliber years. 

On 4/21/2026 at 7:04 AM, Brock Beauchamp said:

Made hasn't taken a single PA in Nashville yet, and he only has about 100 PAs in Biloxi. Calling him up seems like a pretty bad idea.

12 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

Again though, I would not consider it without locking in those extra years of control. Otherwise you're just getting a couple years where he's figuring it out and losing what could be, if he develops the way we think, MVP caliber years. 

I think this conversation might heat up quickly in the second half of the season if Ortiz can't approach a 700 OPS and Made is hitting well at AA.  But like BF said... probably not without a Pratt/Chourio extension.

If Made follows in Chourio's footsteps that would come this fall (in age and development stage).  Perhaps if signing a long-term contract means Made comes up in Aug/Sept, it will be the carrot he needs? 

13 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

Yeah, but he's special. I think it's a really stupid idea without a contract, but he's showing everything right now. More walks than Ks, hitting the ball hard, can handle the velo. I don't think AAA does a whole lot for prospects like Made other than give them a place to play so we can say they need to work on something for 2 months before getting called up so we don't lose a year or service. 

Made is definitely special. I'm not averse to him skipping Nashville, but I'd certainly like more than 100 PAs in Biloxi to show his mettle. Pitchers will adjust to him, and I'd like to see him adjust back. If he can do that, and the Brewers either have a contract in place or have realized there's no chance of a contract, go ahead and call him up.

24 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Made is definitely special.

Kind of crazy how far ahead of even Chourio's advanced pace Made is so far...

Chourio thru Age 18 (628 PA)
290/355/512 (131 wRC+)
8.8 BB% | 23.2 K%

Made thru Age 18 (741 PA)
298/402/452 (141 wRC+)
14.3 BB% | 18.4 K%

Jackson with the edge in raw power, Jesus with a bigger edge in plate discipline.

Obviously a small sample of only 84 PA here to start the year, but Made appears to have somehow turned it up a notch further at 314/429/543 (152 wRC+) with a 16.7 BB% and 13.1 K% in the early going.

Over his first 84 PA at Biloxi as a 19 year old Jackson hit 244/286/410 (79 wRC+) with a 6.0 BB% and 25.0 K% and it took him almost 300 PA that year before exploding for 152 PA of 370/421/623 (171 wRC+) with a 7.9 BB% and 10.5 K% from the end of June thru early August.

Agree that it's still to early for anything crazy now, but if we get into June with all of Ortiz, Rengifo, Hamilton, Pratt, Jett, and Wilken struggling to varying extents while Jesus continues to make the Southern League look like child's play things could get a lot more interesting. 

15 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Made is definitely special. I'm not averse to him skipping Nashville, but I'd certainly like more than 100 PAs in Biloxi to show his mettle. Pitchers will adjust to him, and I'd like to see him adjust back. If he can do that, and the Brewers either have a contract in place or have realized there's no chance of a contract, go ahead and call him up.

I would to, but IF they sign him... I'm starting to believe he'd be a big upgrade for us. 

Contract takes precedent... which sucks because that's not how sports should work but... obviously it is. 

It wouldn't be that crazy though. 
McGonigle and Griffin, they had ~200 PAs and ~100 PAs in AA ball. Griffin got 5 games in AAA this year, but that was just until they worked out a contract. 

 

16 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

 

I think this conversation might heat up quickly in the second half of the season if Ortiz can't approach a 700 OPS and Made is hitting well at AA.  But like BF said... probably not without a Pratt/Chourio extension.

If Made follows in Chourio's footsteps that would come this fall (in age and development stage).  Perhaps if signing a long-term contract means Made comes up in Aug/Sept, it will be the carrot he needs? 

 

What are we thinking it'll take to sign Made? 

I'm starting to think it'll be a MUCH bigger deal than Chourio. 10 years 140 with ~15 Signing bonus and then... I think the tough part would be do we get a TO or two. 2 TOs at 30M per year with a 5M team buyout? The team options would take him to 

For arguments sake, you sign him, call him up now. Setting aside how it'd be difficult to move him to 3B when Pratt was ready(and he seems a little while away yet). 

I'm ONLY bringing his name up as a Baseball player, but you look at Wander Franco, they're really pretty similar players. I think Franco was considered a better pure hitter, Made more athletic, more speed, but two SHing SS's who should hit for power and average, draw walks? 

As good as Chourio was as a prospect, this is a much more valuable player. 3B seems like a fallback now. I don't think we've seen even close to what Chourio is capable of, but still 8 years left.
 
Anyway, Made is I think maybe the best prospect the Brewers have ever had. If he gets to FA by 25, 26, he could be a 1B player(just based on the trajectory of contracts). I suppose you could take the Juan Soto approach, but I'd prefer to keep him in Milwaukee for a very long time. I DO wonder if there's some nudging by the MLBPA to get him to turn down an extension. 

4 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

What are we thinking it'll take to sign Made? 

I'm starting to think it'll be a MUCH bigger deal than Chourio. 10 years 140 with ~15 Signing bonus and then... I think the tough part would be do we get a TO or two. 2 TOs at 30M per year with a 5M team buyout? The team options would take him to 

For arguments sake, you sign him, call him up now. Setting aside how it'd be difficult to move him to 3B when Pratt was ready(and he seems a little while away yet). 

I'm ONLY bringing his name up as a Baseball player, but you look at Wander Franco, they're really pretty similar players. I think Franco was considered a better pure hitter, Made more athletic, more speed, but two SHing SS's who should hit for power and average, draw walks? 

 

As good as Chourio was as a prospect, this is a much more valuable player. 3B seems like a fallback now. I don't think we've seen even close to what Chourio is capable of, but still 8 years left.
 
Anyway, Made is I think maybe the best prospect the Brewers have ever had. If he gets to FA by 25, 26, he could be a 1B player(just based on the trajectory of contracts). I suppose you could take the Juan Soto approach, but I'd prefer to keep him in Milwaukee for a very long time. I DO wonder if there's some nudging by the MLBPA to get him to turn down an extension. 

Certainly it will be more than Chourio just for inflation.  I suspect the Brewers have had talks with Made and his representation, but I doubt they made any offer with zero AA ABs.  Like I said before, if he is on Chourio's "schedule", the offer would come this fall (which is pretty similar to Pratt's schedule too). 

49 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

Certainly it will be more than Chourio just for inflation.  I suspect the Brewers have had talks with Made and his representation, but I doubt they made any offer with zero AA ABs.  Like I said before, if he is on Chourio's "schedule", the offer would come this fall (which is pretty similar to Pratt's schedule too). 

I think they may be changing the schedule. We signed Pratt when it looked like he would need a full year in AAA. 
I don't think it's a stretch to think they'd be approaching Made.

And I think he's going to be much more expensive just because he's so much more valuable. A SS/3B vs a LF? We'll see, if they haven't talked to him coming into the year, we should be right now(and then I would call him up). 

He's maturing in every way that you'd hope he would be. Worst case is almost bringing him up, no contract and he gets called up late this year and then you have him on the active roster heading into the 2027 season... and you may lose most of a year or service. 

All we can do is speculate though. 

55 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

I think they may be changing the schedule. We signed Pratt when it looked like he would need a full year in AAA. 

Pretty much the same development spot as Chourio (except Chourio was younger).  There was a lot of speculation that Chourio needed time at AAA too... even a couple of months into the MLB season.  

They took the same path by signing both prior to any AAA ABs.  Both had the risk of needing time at AAA and Chourio got a lot of debate by starting his rookie year very slowly for the first 2 months. If Pratt heats up at AAA and Ortiz doesn't, I don't think it will take much to switch. 

But for Made, I don't think they were going to give him an MLB contract with zero ABs at AA.  Come Aug/Sept... that might change if they want him to come up for the stretch run and playoffs.  He is certainly making AA look like cake right now. 

9 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

Pretty much the same development spot as Chourio (except Chourio was younger).  There was a lot of speculation that Chourio needed time at AAA too... even a couple of months into the MLB season.  

They took the same path by signing both prior to any AAA ABs.  Both had the risk of needing time at AAA and Chourio got a lot of debate by starting his rookie year very slowly for the first 2 months. If Pratt heats up at AAA and Ortiz doesn't, I don't think it will take much to switch. 

But for Made, I don't think they were going to give him an MLB contract with zero ABs at AA.  Come Aug/Sept... that might change if they want him to come up for the stretch run and playoffs.  He is certainly making AA look like cake right now. 

I guess they're the same as in they both played in AA, but I disagree they're the same "development spot."

Chourio was dominant in AA after they went back to the normal balls(they'd experimented with those tacky balls). Hit well over .300/.380 with a .544 SLG the 2nd half of the year. 
 
I don't recall the speculation that he needed to spend time in AAA.

I also didn't say they would or wouldn't have signed him before the start of this year. I'm talking about right now... 

4 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

I don't recall the speculation that he needed to spend time in AAA.

When he signed it, there were many questions about if he would still go to AAA for some time or start in MLB.  When he started in MLB, he was hitting poorly for 2 months and people (myself included) questioned if he needed to go down. 

6 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

I guess they're the same as in they both played in AA, but I disagree they're the same "development spot."

Chourio was dominant in AA after they went back to the normal balls(they'd experimented with those tacky balls). Hit well over .300/.380 with a .544 SLG the 2nd half of the year. 

 I said they will be at the same development spot this fall if Made stays at AA for the year; even the same age. 

3 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

When he signed it, there were many questions about if he would still go to AAA for some time or start in MLB.  When he started in MLB, he was hitting poorly for 2 months and people (myself included) questioned if he needed to go down. 

 I said they will be at the same development spot this fall if Made stays at AA for the year; even the same age. 

I think we may be talking past each other a bit. I was saying Pratt was a bit of an indication they were being a little more aggressive or changing up their approach a bit, not comparing Made to Chourio, but... it doesn't really matter. We'll see what happens.