Any chance of Gallardo in September or October? -- Latest: Yo will start this Thursday according to BCR (reply #234ish)

[And That]

From Wikipedia:

 

Players must be on a team's 25-man roster as of August 31 to be eligible for post-season play. The only exception is that a player on the 60-day disabled list may be replaced by another player from the team's 40-man roster (as of August 31) who plays the same position.

So if Capuano was moved to the 60-day DL by the 31st, Gallardo would be eligible, right?

[kramnoj]

I thought that Gallardo being on the DL qualified him as being on the roster and eligible for the playoffs.

 

It's theoretically possible that Gallardo could build up arm strength to go 5 IP or a little longer, but that probably wouldn't happen until the middle of September at the very earliest. There just wouldn't be many opportunities to give him to start games. IMO, the best option is to let him rehab at a comfortable pace. If he can join the team as a reliever with a couple of weeks to get into games and be an option as a reliever in October, that would just be great.

 

I don't even think he needs live games to get ready. He can throw bullpen sessions to stretch out his arm and they can simulate games as teams sometimes do to get pitchers ready before rejoining the bigs.

[RyDogg66]

I think you are right about the DL counting. For example, if Braun has to go on the DL for his back and comes off the DL on September 2nd, that would not preclude him from playing in October. Same with Yovani.

[yount19.u]

The hardest thing about ACL's is the mental block to trust the knee when doing activity.

 

I have a feeling that with Yo, a mental block would be the last thing we need to worry about. As long as everything is structurally sound, he should be fine. I would think with any other pitcher, they would have to worry more about the mental aspect of recovery. I get the impression with Yo, that he's the type of guy to go out there and trust his body 100% as long as the doctors give him the ok. I also wouldn't put it past him to possibly start late in September, and possibly the playoffs, if he recovers his strength soon enough. This could be awesome for the Crew.

[Fear The Chorizo]

He has been playing catch for quite awhile, so it's not like spring training where some pitchers start their throwing program without touching a ball for 3-4 months. He's already got good armstrength built up, now it's time to start incorporating the mound. I would think there is plenty of time for Gallardo to get stretched out enough to start games in a month's time - that's about the timeframe a pitcher's spring training is, anyway.

 

Now I'm officially excited - until he was cleared to pitch from a mound, I was trying to keep my internal Yo clock from starting...with no hiccups, I think he's got a good chance to be pitching for the Brewers in 4 weeks.

[olliegjw]

There is no chance he comes back as a starter, even if he has the arm strength to do it. There is no way they will let him swing a bat and run the bases. Those could be much more stressful on the knee than the pitching.

[Fear The Chorizo]

If he's cleared to be throwing from a mound, I'm sure he's been running and strengthening his legs a long time. Since it's his drive leg, pitching from a mound is probably more stressful on his knee than anything else he may do on a baseball field. It's not like his knee is on the verge of blowing out again - it was repaired and the leg needed to be strengthened through rehab, which is apparently going great. If he can't run and change directions safely, then he shouldn't be cleared to pitch from a mound, IMO.

 

If he can't run or change directions, guess what the first 5 batters will do - bunt. No way he's cleared to be pitching from a mound before he's been able to do any sort of sustained running - that would be risking injuring his arm, which is something the Brewers won't do.

[TuesdaysWithRillo]

Even if it were legal, why wouldn't the Brewers rehab him with a minor league affiliate?

I was referring to if it got to the point where the minor league season was over. If he was healthy enough to pitch before the minor league season ends then all systems go.

 

[1992casey]

Players must be on a team's 25-man roster as of August 31 to be eligible for post-season play. The only exception is that a player on the 60-day disabled list may be replaced by another player from the team's 40-man roster (as of August 31) who plays the same position.

 

I agree with RyDogg66. The Wikipedia quote seems to jump from the obvious to the least obvious while missing the in-between. I think the proper language is something like "Players must be on a team's 25-man roster or disabled list..."

[holybannana]

I'm not getting my hopes up but this is only great news. At least he has a chance of playing and maybe starting again this year. There's a chance at least. And worst case is he doesn't play this year but he's 100% healthy for next year.

 

No one thought Reggie White was going to come back so quickly for instance. Things happen in a magical season...

[tigerbrew]

Really happy to see Yo with the team and throwing off the mound soon. , Hopefully Yo is able to pitch in some capacity in October if the Brewers do make the playoffs. It would be really nice for him to experience mlb postseason too.

[jhart05]

"Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information."

 

http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

 

Seriously thou, yeah it was nice seeing Yo-yo in the dugout last night. Maybe he will be able to help some down the sretch.

[sheethead]

"Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information."

Most of the information on a Wiki is referenced (often times with a footnote). If the matter is not verified, Wiki will usually let you know. Its not like people make up everything on that site. This is a big misconception about a wiki. For the information to be reliable, both on a wiki and everywhere else, a source or reference should be noted. This is usually the case on Wikipedia.

 

I want Yo back so bad it hurts, but I don't want a 50-80% Yo back. It bothers me how Cubs fans can reference the injury to Soriano as to why they aren't up on the Brewers more, but they selectively forget about the Crew's #2 pitcher going down in his 4th game of the year. With a healthy Yo all year, I could see the Brewers on top of the Cubs at this point.

[jhart05]

That was just a quote from a TV show called "The Office". I saw Wikipedia and couldn't resist. Plus I watched a couple episodes last night.

 

With the Crew playing really well and the Favre thing finally over with, I'm just in one of those really good moods right now.

[TuesdaysWithRillo]

I know we don't have any time frame at all released yet, but what do you guys think about this? Could he be back in the pen by mid September if he has no set backs? How long does it take for a pitcher to be ready after being able to throw from the mound?

 

I am wondering if we can come up with a good guess as to when he could be back barring no set backs.

[mkesportscom]

Gallardo would be a huge piece in the playoffs. He won't be available to be a starter, but since CC, Sheets, and Parra may be asked to work on three days rest, the bullpen will be very important (especially against the Cubs who work the count). With Torres at closer, Shouse as lefty specialist, and Riske, Gallardo, and Villanueva as setup men, I feel good about our bullpen. If the Brewers get a playoff berth and win in the first round, the NLCS is going to be a real grind against the Cubs. Our bullpen will be very key.

[TuesdaysWithRillo]

If the Brewers get a playoff berth and win in the first round, the NLCS is going to be a real grind against the Cubs. Our bullpen will be very key.

I wouldn't take for granted that the Cubs make it to the NLCS. That team to the South about 90 miles has been known to choke here and there. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/laugh.gif

 

 

[TooLiveBrew]

Count me in the camp that's really excited at the prospect of YoGa being in the bullpen for the potential postseason. Now, if there's *any* risk at all for him, I'd be firmly 100% against him coming back.

[Madtown Bomber]

I got this email this morning from a VERY reliable source. Take it for what it is worth.

 

"A meeting took place this past Thursday afternoon after Yovani's latest bullpen session. Yovani through 90 pitches that included his full series of pitches. At this meeting they have decided to progress Yovani's load program to include simulated games with a eye on a possible return on September 19th. There are still several hurdles to cross before that date but Yovani has definatly aimed for returning to the starting rotation from the onset of his rehab."

 

Pretty exciting news. A rotation of Sabathia, Sheets, Parra, Gallardo, Bush/Suppan is pretty tough.

[TooLiveBrew]

Wow. Please keep us informed if you learn anything more Madtown. To say that that's exciting is putting it mildly. How is Yo's playoff availability affected by this, though? Doesn't he have to be on the 25-man roster by 9/1 to be eligible?

 

 

EDIT: Ok... from casey's post above

 

--Players must be on a team's 25-man roster as of August 31 to be eligible for post-season play. The only exception is that a player on the 60-day disabled list may be replaced by another player from the team's 40-man roster (as of August 31) who plays the same position.

 

I agree with RyDogg66. The Wikipedia quote seems to jump from the obvious to the least obvious while missing the in-between. I think the proper language is something like "Players must be on a team's 25-man roster or disabled list..."--

[And That]

Gallardo is eligible for the post-season roster because he was on the active roster by 8/31 (it just so happened he wasn't on the active roster on 8/31).

 

Hope your information is good, Madtown.

[lukevan]

I think he is still playoff eligible since he's on the DL.

 

Having a 100% Yovani Gallardo for the stretch would make this a really dangerous team.

[dadofandrew]

He won't be in the rotation regardless, I have heard Doug say this much. He might be able to give them a few bullpen innings.

[hawing]

The only exception is that a player on the 60-day disabled list may be replaced by another player from the team's 40-man roster (as of August 31) who plays the same position.

 

Has Yovani been on the 60-day DL? I remember he started on the 15-day DL in May. (just wondering, in case the exception noted above is literally limited to the 60-day DL)

 

If he really could be "playoff race effective" this year yet, we'd surely have to nickname him Wolverine.

[Madtown Bomber]

Just want to follow up with a couple points. 1. I know Doug Melvin has stated that if Gallardo comes back it would be in a pen role but I have never heard of any reliever throwing 90 pitches in a bullpen session. 2. A bullpen guy has to be a lot more stress on that knee then throwing every 5 days. 3. Yovani Gallardo is eliable to be on the playoff roster due to the fact he is on the DL with a major league club. Even say Gallardo would head down to Nashville tomorrow to throw in the last game on September 1st he would still be eliable due to the fact that he is on the MLB DL and is accumulating MLB service time.

 

Thankfully I have some good placed friends that I personally saw Gallardo's bullpen session August 19th about 4 hours before the game against Houston and it was GOOD. Looks ready.