Cameron for Melky Cabrera? Nick Swisher?

[RobertR]

I'm not particularly enamored of Swisher, at least for the Brewers. The Brewers have enough defensive problems on the infield that I'm not particularly interested in downgrading the outfield defense as well. I just don't see the upside to this particular trade. And, frankly, I'm willing to wait until the trade deadline with Cameron if there's not a trade that clearly helps the Brewers now. Especially since at the current stage I don't think there's a lot of pitchers on the Brewers staff that are consistent "bat missers".

 

I also think you have to take into account that the Brewers can still be contenders for the playoffs in 2009, depending on what they do to fill out the starting rotation. Unless there's a dire financial reason to do so, I really don't see the marginal cost difference between Cameron and Swisher offsetting the marginal win difference. Especially considering how valuable marginal wins are for a playoff contender.

 

Robert

[sbrylski]

Just a reminder, Cameron was a type B player this offseason, so we would probably be forgoing a sandwich pick if we made this trade as well.

 

Straight up, Swisher for Cameron, is intruiging - but I might want one more minor piece or some money if I we're to agree to it.

[PeaveyFury]

Any cost savings the Brewers get next season gets negated and then some in the following 2 years. If Swisher doesn't rebound like alot of you think

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Any cost savings the Brewers get next season gets negated and then some in the following 2 years if Swisher doesn't rebound like alot of you think

 

Updated that for you as well.

 

Just a reminder, Cameron was a type B player this offseason, so we would probably be forgoing a sandwich pick if we made this trade as well.

 

They would have to offer Cameron arby after next season, which I don't think is a definite thing, especially if he shows signs of decline in 09.

[zzzmanwitz]

Here is a multi year projection on Swisher and Fielder. I haven't really analyzed it up to this point.

 

Swisher

 

http://www.baseballprojection.com/swishni1254.htm

 

Fielder

 

http://www.baseballprojection.com/fieldpr1309.htm

[PeaveyFury]

That projection for Swisher has him as a very productive player through his remaining contract, FWIW.

[endaround]

Of course over the next three years it has Fielder as a monster

[zzzmanwitz]

I also believe that him at 1B would at least be "good" defense, putting him at a projected value of 12.3 Million this season.

[endaround]

Except Swisher has been pretty bad during his time at 1B, for his career his UZR/150 is -5.1 vs -9.0 for Fielder

[Oldcity]

That's surprising to me, because everything I've ever heard has Swisher as a very good defensive first baseman. He has been very good in right field though, and he'd just be a fallback option at first.

 

Of course over the next three years it has Fielder as a monster.

 

Not sure how relevant this really is because nobody has suggested trading Fielder for Swisher. All that was mentioned is it would give the Brewers more insurance to trade Fielder at some point if the Brewers wanted to.

[zzzmanwitz]

Not sure how relevant this really is because nobody has suggested trading Fielder for Swisher.

 

I think the idea is that Swisher could be a replacement for Fielder if we were to trade him next offseason.

[Oldcity]

I understand, but he was comparing Fielder to Swisher. That's apples to oranges. The correct comparison would be Fielder compared to Swisher+whatever the Brewers got in a Fielder trade.

[trwi7]

Swisher

 

http://www.baseballprojection.com/swishni1254.htm

 

Fielder

 

http://www.baseballprojection.com/fieldpr1309.htm

I'm going to add Hart's projection to this since Hart may be traded if Cain produces.

 

http://www.baseballprojection.com/hart-co0385.htm