Brewers acquire CF Corey Patterson [Called up 9/4 - see reply 128ish]

[JoeHova]

My point is that we have the same guy in our dugout that ran a not ready Reyes out there in a year the Mets could have competed because Reyes was fast.

I know. I was just pointing out that the Patterson situation is much, much worse than the Reyes situation was.

[sheethead]

I'm sort of curious...if Patterson is given a chance to win the CF job next year with a good spring, would that be enough to push anybody from "keep Melvin" to "fire Melvin"?

Absolutely. The fact that Patterson is drawing a check from the Brewers organization should cause Attanasio to re-evaluate his decision maker's competency.

 

Who should have led off for the 2005 Mets? Cliff Floyd, Mike Cameron, or David Wright? All other regulars OBP was .330 or lower, and they were .322 as a team. Randolph didn't have a lot of options, or good OBP guys. Reyes was being groomed to be the franchise leadoff hitter, and had a .334 OBP in 2003. Whose to say that Reyes would have put up .350+ OBP ever since had he not had a full year in 2005? The Mets could have waited on him until 2007, but he still might have needed a year to adjust to be an overly effective leadoff hitter. The answer always seems to come back to "he's wasn't ready," or "he needs more time in the minors." When there is a need, and no serviceable stopgap, how can that be placed on the manager? Reyes learned as a leadoff hitter, and now he is one of the best in the league. I would like to see Escobar be run the same way next year.

 

Reyes scored 99 runs that year. How many runs have our leadoff hitters combined for this year?

[trwi7]

Umm, has anyone read this article? I haven't seen it posted, but it's scary.

"Every day you write a lineup out, you try to write a winning one," Macha said. "But organizationally, you'd like to see (Alcides) Escobar play, see what Corey Patterson (and the rest) can do."

So Gamel's going to play sparingly but you'd like to see what you have in Corey Patterson? You haven't figured out that he's a terrible baseball player in his 3,500 major league at bats?

[Baldkin]

The answer is 87.

 

In 591 PA. With a .343 OBP. Craig Counsell and Jason Kendall both being pretty horrid in the leadoff spot for about 1/3rd of the seasons PA's.

[Invader3K]

He says that as if Corey Patterson is a green rookie. He's 29 and has been in MLB for close to 10 years.

[logan82]

I won't argue against Counsell batting leadoff when he plays because he has the platoon advantage most of the time. I don't believe that he is somehow 150 points of OPS better because he is moved from #1 to #2 in the batting order.

[brewmann04]

i would rather see Gerut getting a tryout in center for 2010 than Patterson.

Melvin job will be on the line in 2010 to see what changes he can make to get this team back into playoff contention.

[sheethead]

The answer is 87.

 

Thanks Baldkin. It shows the extra .043 OBP hasn't helped the Brewers score many more runs than the 2005 Mets with Reyes leading off. Probably more of an anomaly though.