2011-10-14 Brewers (Greinke) at Cardinals (Garcia) [Brewers lose, 7-1; trail NLCS, 3-2]

[danzig6767]

this should be a 1-1 ballgame right now, and the Brewer defense is costing them this game - the defense has been bad all year, but it seems like the Brewers are cracking under some postseason pressure this series

It could even be 1-0 Brewers had Hart caught that ball in the first inning. But either way, we should be sitting here in a close 1-1 or 2-1 game at worst.

[ELCABALLO45]

It feels like its 10-1.

[Raw Biz]

God Roenicke is such an idiot starting Greinke on the road! He should have known that Narveson or Marcum could have scored more than one run in six innings BY THEMSELVES. They are also FAR superior defenders and almost certainly would have prevented their teammates from making errors simply because of their great range.

I believe the whole point of those wanting to start Narveson or Marcum was so that Greinke would be able to pitch at home. Now, this game is looking like it will most likely be a loss and Marcum is up next ..who on top of being a much better pitcher on the road this year, has been pitching terribly as of late.

And the whole point of those against it was because home/road splits aren't some magical thing. You pitch your best pitchers on normal rest whenever possible. This was Greinke's time due up so you pitch him. He even said he hates pitching on longer rest.

[brewmann04]

i sorry but we are heading home so they will have to beat us at our Park. I have every belief that they will get to a game 7 . I hope Yo comes out like he did against the diamondbacks. The defense is what it is and will be addressed in the offseason but just have to get the offense going.

[adamb100]

Dont forget we have to beat Carpenter again.

 

Oh look, silent bats again.

[mastershake76]

Oy. I'm sure the crowd loved that.

[Mr QL]

The Cardinals are just better than us

[jason21nl]

The defense has been terrible for years, it won't be addressed in the offseason

[danzig6767]

God Roenicke is such an idiot starting Greinke on the road! He should have known that Narveson or Marcum could have scored more than one run in six innings BY THEMSELVES. They are also FAR superior defenders and almost certainly would have prevented their teammates from making errors simply because of their great range.

I believe the whole point of those wanting to start Narveson or Marcum was so that Greinke would be able to pitch at home. Now, this game is looking like it will most likely be a loss and Marcum is up next ..who on top of being a much better pitcher on the road this year, has been pitching terribly as of late.

And the whole point of those against it was because home/road splits aren't some magical thing. You pitch your best pitchers on normal rest whenever possible. This was Greinke's time due up so you pitch him. He even said he hates pitching on longer rest.

Plus, even though Greinke hasn't been great tonight, he could have still been in the game with the score 1-1 had his defense behind him not been atrocious.

[ELCABALLO45]

Let the Cardinals enjoy it. It's their last home game of the year.

[adamb100]

The defense has been terrible for years, it won't be addressed in the offseason

It is terrible but it was never this terrible.

[wOOgiE22]

Just what the doctor ordered a DP. I think the Cards bullpen is full of Cy Youngs

[dlk9s]

Just what the doctor ordered a DP. I think the Cards bullpen is full of Cy Youngs

Lynn gave up the hit just to set up the DP.

[Fear The Chorizo]

why is Loe in right now? Aren't there 4-5 other relievers in the pen and an off day tomorrow?

[ELCABALLO45]

Pujols glared at Morgan after that DP.

[pitchleague]

I still don't think Greinke has been bad tonight all. The defense has completely left the team down. Completely.

[Beast Light]

God Roenicke is such an idiot starting Greinke on the road! He should have known that Narveson or Marcum could have scored more than one run in six innings BY THEMSELVES. They are also FAR superior defenders and almost certainly would have prevented their teammates from making errors simply because of their great range.

I believe the whole point of those wanting to start Narveson or Marcum was so that Greinke would be able to pitch at home. Now, this game is looking like it will most likely be a loss and Marcum is up next ..who on top of being a much better pitcher on the road this year, has been pitching terribly as of late.

And the whole point of those against it was because home/road splits aren't some magical thing. You pitch your best pitchers on normal rest whenever possible. This was Greinke's time due up so you pitch him. He even said he hates pitching on longer rest.

Personally, I don't fault Reonicke for doing what he did. In fact I probably would have done the same thing. However, I do think that the idea of having a better chance of winning 2 of 3 games with Narveson/Marcum, Greinke and Gallardo starting games in order had some merit.

[danzig6767]

The Cardinals are just better than us

With their bullpen in such better shape compared to the first half of the year along with trade additions made, i think they are better overall. Better lineup and defense. The pens are probably a push and with how LaRussa can use his pen like this because of days off, it negates weaknesses in their rotation.

[Mr QL]

Its shocking how badly we've been outplayed

[mastershake76]

whoa whoa whoa.... I don't have DVR here. Are they talking about marcum in game 6?

[ELCABALLO45]

I still don't think Greinke has been bad tonight all. The defense has completely left the team down. Completely.

I don't think he was "bad". But he gave up some hard hit balls and didn't strike a guy out.

[ttsather]

Why Loe? We have a day off coming up.

[ELCABALLO45]

whoa whoa whoa.... I don't have DVR here. Are they talking about marcum in game 6?

RR said before the game it would be Marcum no matter what.

[Oldcity]

Yep should be Saito here. Good job by Loe there but Roenicke again managing like it's the regular season. He's done it throughout the entire playoffs.

[ttsather]

whoa whoa whoa.... I don't have DVR here. Are they talking about marcum in game 6?

Yep, Roenicke talked about it earlier today.