Trade proposal for Jimenez

[wallus]

2 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

What does being a poor defender or DH only have to do with anything?

Well considering the Brewers rely on good defense and have a winning record because of it, it is kind of important.

You compared guys that are not DHs with Eloy that is a clear DH. DH's have value but the guys that are not always available and are not still in Arbys, are worth less. I don't understand why you dismiss that.

The Brewers are starting too many rookies and need someone that can reliably hit a baseball. For that reason, they should have some interest in Eloy. If the price is too high, you just bide your time until Tellez is back or you call up Tyler Black and move on. 

[Scooterfletcher]

5 minutes ago, wallus said:

Well considering the Brewers rely on good defense and have a winning record because of it, it is kind of important.

You compared guys that are not DHs with Eloy that is a clear DH. DH's have value but the guys that are not always available and are not still in Arbys, are worth less. I don't understand why you dismiss that.

The Brewers are starting too many rookies and need someone that can reliably hit a baseball. For that reason, they should have some interest in Eloy. If the price is too high, you just bide your time until Tellez is back or you call up Tyler Black and move on. 

Brown Jr, Small, Lara for Jimenez needs to happen by midnight.

[TURBO]

23 minutes ago, wallus said:

 

you just bide your time until Tellez is back ... 

No thanks.  If we are going to rely on Rowdy to give us some offense, it hasn't worked all year, not gonna happen now.

Rowdy is dead to me.

[TURBO]

18 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Brown Jr, Small, Lara for Jimenez needs to happen by midnight.

I hate the thoughts of including Lara in any deal...

[wallus]

12 minutes ago, TURBO said:

No thanks.  If we are going to rely on Rowdy to give us some offense, it hasn't worked all year, not gonna happen now.

Rowdy is dead to me.

It worked great until he was clearly hurt. Either Rowdy should have told management he was hurt or management should have recognized it and put him on the IL sooner.

[brewcrewdue80]

Jimenez is a bat only DH.  Nelson Cruz would be a similar comp late in his career but he still played dozens of games in the outfield. And Cruz during his 12-14.5Mil salary stretch batted in the 150+ OPS+ while playing nearly full seasons.  Jimenez has missed 2+ and 3+months the previous 2 seasons and 1month thus far this season. Being paid 16.8M for next yr with buyout from options.  And bringing a 119OPS+ this year career 123 OPS+ as the bat.  

Yeah he brings a nice bat to the team. But it's at full pay or overpay moving forward without him being not just healthy but better with the batting. 

Stop staring at the Brewers poor batting lines and putting Jimenez above average bat like it's a Belson Cruz 160+OPS bat we'd be acquiring. 

Keston Hiura was a 115OPS+ bat last season. Yet he's not stepped on the ML field this season.  16+mil a year is future cost. His value to BWAR is .8 this year. Never reached 2+ yet.  Asking for a high prospect value would be akin to expecting a top 75 in return headline when trading Yelich today.  It's a bad contract for Yelich, and a bad contract for Jimenez. 

Unless of course you think Yelich should net the team a top 70 prospect plus if traded at this deadline.