Time for bull pen reevaluation

[Ghostbear]

Yeah Yelich is still striking out and hitting under 200, worst in his career. Time for a full eye exam and a heart to heart chat with Murph. I think it has to do with him not playing out in left. But, that's another discussion. Should the Crew had won the game today? Absolutely! So, it's time to reevaluate the bull pen and admit who is worth being there and whose not.  Obviously, given the new guys they're experimenting with, they know it too. Pyamps need to go. Alexander is questionable. Time to set goals for the rest of the season, thus time to bring up some guys from the minors who are doing well. Last year we were a top 5 team. This year we're a bottom 5.  Thank goodness for the " Pathetic Pirates" or we'd be sucking the bottom of the lake. Thus, time for Murph, Arnold, and Weeks to sit down and look in the mirror as to who needs to play and who needs to go. Turang, Frelick, and Rhys are saving the day. Churio needs some honest, tough, coaching- maybe a few games down in Nashville will help. Ortiz doesn't belong at shortstop, can't hit, can't bunt, mediocre in the field. Durban brings energy and needs to play. As for now, Murph needs to put Yelich and Ortiz at the bottom of the lineup. Churio maybe 6 or 7. Montesario is not the answer either.  Arnold needs to be looking for some serious trades. I knew we'd miss Willie, but not this much. The morale and energy of the team has definitely taken a dive from where it was. We have great young players, and we also have players who are letting the team down. I truly hope they do NOT trade Contreras.  Bottom line, every player knows that if they play well, Antanasio won't keep them because he doesn't value his players at their market value, he NEEDS TO SELL THE TEAM to some owners who really want to win and who don't play games with their players, Hader, Burns, Adames are all examples of that, and all the current players see it and know it. 

 

 

 

Watching the game.  Churio is frustrated. Why? Since the beginning of the year he's backed off the plate by 3 or 4 inches. He struck out again on a pitch on the outside corner?;Why? He's too far off the plate. Had he been up to the plate he would have driven the ball to right or right center. Get up to the plate.

Yelich also struck out. He's only hitting 196. Why? He's off the plate. His hands are too close to his body and not up where he can come through with a line drives swing. Get up to the plate!!

As an old, once upon a time baseball coach who focused on mechanics, it is very apparent that the Brewer hitters are pressing.  When you watch Yelich, Churio, Ortiz, even Turang today, they're all pressing. They're focusing too much on the big picture of the past games instead of staying in the moment. When that happens, their grip on the bat is tighter, their focus too much on the pitcher's motion rather than staying focused on the ball, thus, more chasing the ball, more strike outs, more pounding the ball into the ground.  The hitting coaches need to meet with them and talk to them about the following: 1-Relax and be in the moment, 2- focus on the ball Not the pitcher. From the time the pitcher gets the ball back, train your vision, thus your focus on the ball all the way beginning with the wind up, through the release point, so you can catch the spin on the ball, which will help you attack it with a level swing, 3- get your bat up, away from your body with relaxed muscles and relaxed grip, relaxed muscles are much faster than tense ones, 4- look for a pitch to drive, read the spin and movement, 5- practice smooth, level, swings that produce line drives. Then the hits will come, the runs will come, and confidence will come back. STOP PRESSING. STAY IN THE MOMENT.  FOCUS ON THE BALL. RELAX. LINE DRIVE SWINGS. HIT THE DAMN BALL. 

[SomewhereInTime]

The problem with our current pitching staff is we do not have starters who go deep into games like 2011 or 2021 teams did.  Yet the bullpen is managed as if we do.  Its fine to have 1 inning relievers when starters pitch 6, 7, 8 innings regularly, not when they're often pulled in the 5th or 6th.  This team isn't using anyone like 2024 Bryan Hudson, or 2018/2019 Hader, or 2018 Burnes, or 2023 Bryse Wilson, or 2022 Suter, or 2019 Guerra.

I'm not talking about long relievers or garbage time pitchers, you always have those, I mean multi inning setup men, multi inning stoppers/closers.

At the current rate this year, you'll have at least three main setup men over 80 games pitched by the end of the year, or they'll be on that pace until they get hurt.  It is not sustainable.

[wiguy94]

4 minutes ago, SomewhereInTime said:

The problem with our current pitching staff is we do not have starters who go deep into games like 2011 or 2021 teams did.  Yet the bullpen is managed as if we do.  Its fine to have 1 inning relievers when starters pitch 6, 7, 8 innings regularly, not when they're often pulled in the 5th or 6th.  This team isn't using anyone like 2024 Bryan Hudson, or 2018/2019 Hader, or 2018 Burnes, or 2023 Bryse Wilson, or 2022 Suter, or 2019 Guerra.

I'm not talking about long relievers or garbage time pitchers, you always have those, I mean multi inning setup men, multi inning stoppers/closers.

At the current rate this year, you'll have at least three main setup men over 80 games pitched by the end of the year, or they'll be on that pace until they get hurt.  It is not sustainable.

That's where getting Ashby and Hall back is going to be so huge. Those are guys who are capable of going multiple innings and pitching leverage. So instead of using 2 leverage guys in the 6th and 7th we could use one of Ashby/Hall.

[SomewhereInTime]

2 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

That's where getting Ashby and Hall back is going to be so huge. Those are guys who are capable of going multiple innings and pitching leverage. So instead of using 2 leverage guys in the 6th and 7th we could use one of Ashby/Hall.

If and when other starters get healthy, Chad Patrick could be that guy too.

[Frisbee Slider]

Peralta, Quintana, Henderson, Patrick, Civale, Woodruff,

Hall, Ashby,

Megill, Koenig, Mears, Uribe, Anderson 

Pitching staff in a few weeks? Bunch of piggybacking?

[Thurston Fluff]

On 5/21/2025 at 6:34 PM, SomewhereInTime said:

The problem with our current pitching staff is we do not have starters who go deep into games like 2011 or 2021 teams did.  Yet the bullpen is managed as if we do.  Its fine to have 1 inning relievers when starters pitch 6, 7, 8 innings regularly, not when they're often pulled in the 5th or 6th.  This team isn't using anyone like 2024 Bryan Hudson, or 2018/2019 Hader, or 2018 Burnes, or 2023 Bryse Wilson, or 2022 Suter, or 2019 Guerra.

I'm not talking about long relievers or garbage time pitchers, you always have those, I mean multi inning setup men, multi inning stoppers/closers.

At the current rate this year, you'll have at least three main setup men over 80 games pitched by the end of the year, or they'll be on that pace until they get hurt.  It is not sustainable.

I think the bullpen is managed like it has reinforcements on the way. Murph is overworking some because he knows they won't be needed later in the season. At least I hope that's why he's using them a few of them so much now.

[Playing Catch]

10 hours ago, Frisbee Slider said:

Bunch of piggybacking?

It's all happening! Four for four, and then four more for four more! 4-man rotation, 4 piggy-backs.