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My alternate question to those giving poor grades is this:

If the Suarez trade was Henderson, Hardin, Wichowski, then what grade would you give it for the brewers .

 

If OHearn would have costed MecCage, Letson, and Adamczewski then what grade would you give the brewers .

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3 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

My alternate question to those giving poor grades is this:

If the Suarez trade was Henderson, Hardin, Wichowski, then what grade would you give it for the brewers .

 

If OHearn would have costed MecCage, Letson, and Adamczewski then what grade would you give the brewers .

B
 Negatively….Both being only rentals and a big hit to the farm.  
Positively…what a lineup.  Durbin may jettison to 2B, Turang to SS…Ortiz plays everywhere.

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Miller/Montgomery trade: A

Basically took on some salary to get a potential leverage reliever. Hard to get angry at this.

Cortes/Lockridge trade: D

This is a confusing one and gives ammunition to the people that say the team is cheap. You can connect the dots and say Arnold had to dump Cortes to afford picking up Miller/Montgomery. I didn't think much of Lockridge but it is a little amusing that he is starting and leading off in his first game with the team. My faith in the front office is the only thing that kept that trade from being an F.

Jansen/Areinamo trade: B-

It was very clear that the team did not like Areinamo for whatever reason. I like Jansen as a clear upgrade over Haase.

Overall Grade: C. The team has the prospects to have done more but the team is better now than what it was.

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I'm going with B.  They didn't make a trade and throw away top tiers of prospect just to make a trade.

Lockridge I'm fine with. He'll have at least an option next season.  They gained a fast pinch runner if they want to use say for extra inning 2b start.  Chourio's injury may have enticed the pick up.

Miller is a plus for the bullpen. Being on IL, I'd hope he will have a fresher arm for the stretch.

Think the progression on the team and however far they go in the playoffs, will gain experience to put a go for it next season vibe.  I think this team's weakness as a whole, is matching up vs HR power teams. Yankees are a terrible matteam's.

The Cubs and Nationals series show how much the Brewers defense really is superior advantage.

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A.

Arnold & co decided not to disrupt the amazing 2025 team chemistry they’ve established. They love the defense Ortiz provides and very likely don’t think it’s worth upgrading from Monasterio and disturbing said team chemistry.

Adding Lockridge for Jorge Quintana makes sense with the news of Chourio’s potentially being out a month or longer. 

Adding Shelby Miller without giving up any prospects, probably the best single move of any team at the trade deadline. 

This team knows their players and what they have in those players better than anybody.

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I'm annoyed with the Cortes/Quintana trade. Why the Brewers would trade Quintana, a kid that just turned 18, a kid that was the top prospect in the same class as Pena and Made, which I understand doesn't make him as good as either, but you got back who? A fast 28-year-old OFer who... hasn't done much. 

An above average starting pitcher wasn't enough for him(especially considering what the Padres throw around in trades). 

Quintana is exactly the type of prospect I don't like just throwing into a trade. He just turned 18 3 months ago, he's a switch hitting SS with a 50 overall grade. 

In all likelihood, he won't end up becoming an impact player, but if he were in HS, he'd barely be old for the Sr class and eligible for next years draft.

I wonder if he had just played a HS season, what he'd have done? Bet he gets picked pretty highly. and he's still be pretty young for the class. 

 

You got a prospect who seems like a defensive OFer who is a AAAA player and you had to give him up? I'd guess Quintana was on his way to LowA with Made and Pena getting the move up here shortly. 

And it's not that I wouldn't want to trade Quintana, he was just valued as...what? Nothing. I'd have rather traded the Quintana who is starting for us, thrown Nestor into the rotation. I imagine we'd have been able to get another OFer in that deal. 

 

And then we paid for it. That seems insane.

 

But, that said.

-I'm counting the trades we've made this year. We made them "before the deadline." 
So-Priester-Also hated that trade at the time. Just found out he went to school with a friend of mine's sister. Irrespective of that, he's been throwing like a #2. 

A++

-Andrew Vaughn
For the first week he came up, I said, "well, this rally is over." Zero faith. I thought he may run into a couple but hit .210 if he got hot. He's been a MVP caliber player if you extrapolate what he's done during the time he's been here, and the swings have been great. 

A+++++(two more pluses than Priester because we didn't have to give up the 33rd pick, a really good young CFer and a pitcher.

Danny Jansen
-I think he has a .770 OPS since June 1st. 

We gave up a guy who was blocked, but a nice player. Big time protection against Contreras getting hurt AND gives Contreras time off. Plus, Contreras just had a 5 hit game. .632./.650/1.211 and a 1.861 OP. 

I Mena, I'd like to see more walks. .632 BA and only a .650 OBP? Kinda weak. 

But, we gave up very little. So;

B+

Shelby Miller+Jordan Montgomery

I wanted a high leverage reliever to slot in ahead of Mears. I do not think that's what Miller is, but I think he is a good reliever.

We only had to give up money in the form of Montgomery. I hope he hangs out in the Brewers clubhouse as I'd like to see him rehab with the Brewers and maybe sign a 1./10M deal next year. The Brewers liked him, he'd be a good lefty and I think he has good stuff and we all know TJ tends to add 1-3 MPH...generally 1-2, but I'm going to be optimistic. 

I would still prefer 3./60 and more likely 3./75 for Woody, he's a veteran leader, but it's not the place for that. 

Only took on money

A- Would have liked Duran, that would have cost Henderson+a guy like Wilken+. If not Hendo and Quero. Too much. 

 

 

Cortes+Quintanta---

 

FFFFF
Cortes should have been kept and we could have added any number of OFers for cheap 

Quintana has a big first half next year and he's knocking on the top 100. If nothing else, you got VERY little trade value for both players. I would hae thought either player was an overpay, we gave up both. 

 

F

 

 

Overall, my priority was NOT giving up a big haul as despite what Twitter says, we're a EXTREMELY WELL run organization. A reason I like posting here, the posters get it. 

We ALL understand that Jesus Made could VERY easily play 40 games for the Brewers over 2 years and be so bad that he's DFAed or traded to a team that sees his prospect ranking and wants to try and rehab him. So he could be a huge bust.

We all understand that risk is acceptable when you see the surplus value that you get in the ONE in 20 chance that he becomes an MVP candidate as a SHing SS. That's worth maybe 200M for the Brewers, more if you can sign him like chourio. 

 

So would I have loved Naylor at 1B/DH? Yes, O'Hearn? Sure. I REALLY would have loved Duran/Bautista/Helsley  and the package the As gave up was great(not for Made). 

But the prices were prohibitive and while we didn't improve our chances and now a series vs the Pads may be a bit more difficult...and while Suarez didn't go for a ton, he DID go for roughly what I'd equate to Luke Adams/Brice Wlken, Letson and Knoth. Maybe more as Seattle may be one of the few teams with a deeper farm system. 

Just hope Hoskins can come back and hit for some pop. Chourio needs to get back and stay hot. Contreras getting hot would be HUGE and Logan Henderson and Shelby Miller to the pen makes that Pen so much tougher. 

 

Overall 

A-

A for the players
B-For not getting that final bat 
A for not overpaying with a future core player. 

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