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    Is Trevor Megill's August Stagger Cause for Concern?

    Trevor Megill blew two saves this weekend, and were it not for the heroics of Blake Perkins, he'd be up to four in the month of August. Should Brewers fans be worried about their relief ace?

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    This is, in a way, the inverse of Betteridge's Law of Headlines. Call it Axford's axiom, or Turnbow's razor: Always be worried about relievers. Never fully trust them. That's the job of managers and pitching coaches, and the fact that managers and pitching coaches have no choice but to trust relievers is why most of them get fired every few years. Your favorite hitter's slump is probably half in your head, and half the normal thing, and they'll probably be great again in a week. Your favorite reliever is a ticking time bomb; his swoon is probably a very real problem.

    But let's not paint with too broad a brush, here, and also, let's not treat Trevor Megill like he's just any other reliever. After all, the Brewers have shown a certain knack for not only finding elite relievers, but keeping them great for an unusually long time. Josh Hader didn't flash in the pan for a year and then fizzle. Neither did Devin Williams. Each of those ex-Crew relief aces have found misfortune this summer, but each first had a multi-year run as a dominant hurler for Milwaukee. Megill has some of the characteristics they each had: a funky delivery, and overwhelming strikeout stuff.

    Even this month, Megill has fanned 13 of his 39 opposing batters. He's only walked two, and he's only allowed one home run. His ERA is 4.00, which is hardly catastrophic. So, on the other hand, maybe we're fretting over nothing. Yes, Megill blew two saves against the Giants at The Ueck this weekend, and yes, he let a lead slip away the previous weekend in Cincinnati. That latter blip came in extra innings, though, when Megill only had a one-run lead and the Reds got to start the inning with a runner at second base. Even if we also look askance at the game he saved against the Mets on August 9, when it took a brilliant throw to the plate by Blake Perkins and a fine tag by William Contreras to cut down the tying run, things don't look all that awful.

    Pretty quickly, perhaps, the truth of this thing is coming into focus: Yes, there's something real going on here. No, it doesn't mean that Megill is done being a reliable closer. His faltering performance this month is worth watching, and even worrying over, because he'll be entrusted with more slim leads against good teams come October. On the other hand, it's not a sign that he's no longer a dominant pitcher. He can be that, and more. It might just require a bit of a breather.

    The season is a grind. Every team has players who wear down, and teams who go on historically great runs like the one the Brewers have over the last six weeks tend to have their high-leverage relievers cluster in that camp. It's not a matter of mismanagement; it's just the cost of being great.

    Some pitchers can operate fine when appearing on consecutive days semi-regularly. Megill, however, wears down if used that much. His huge frame and his high-effort, high-velocity delivery require lots of maintenance. Last year, he appeared on zero oe one days' rest a total of 20 times. This year, that number is already 25. He's appeared on zero days of rest five times since the All-Star break, alone, and another three times on a single day. The problem isn't even his performances in those specific games, though; it's the way the accretion of them taxes his overall readiness for all games.

    Dedicated to his craft and aware of the mixed blessing of his huge dimensions, Megill knows his body. He can find his way to his usual velocity, and even to his usual movement numbers. He knows them; he thinks about them; he trains and prepares and works to sustain them. So, when things go wrong for Megill, it's because he's compromising in other places to get to what he can control—to be the best version of himself possible, even when he's not at his best. So, this month, his spin rate is down slightly. He can whip his body up into enough of a lather to move everything as fast and as powerfully as usual, but he can't fake the feel and the touch that comes with doing so comfortably. 

    Because his rising four-seamer and his snapdrgon power curve both depend on excellent spin efficiency to generate movement, that reduction in sheer spin has also meant a bit less movement this month.

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    That's a significant difference; it can make a difference in whether or not his curve earns a whiff, or in whether or not his heater stays above the barrel. It's not a calamity, though. This is still a pitcher who should be able to succeed. Has something else wobbled?

    Yes. Here's where Megill's fastballs ended up, from Opening Day through the end of July.

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    If you've watched Megill over his two years (parts of three seasons) in Milwaukee, you know that his heater plays superbly at the top of the zone—but that he's also capable of steering it downhill, flat and hot and deceptive, to grab the bottom rail, around the knees. His ability to change eye levels even with the heat is part of why his curve is more devastating than those of many other pitchers who rely on this pair of offerings.

    Here's where those fastballs have been in August.

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    A little tired, and perhaps a hair short on the calm focus and confidence that relievers have at their freshest, Megill is trying to do his usual thing—but he's often finding either that he can't drive the ball downhill enough, or that the spin-based relative lift he had a few months ago is missing. Vertically, he's gone from filling up the whole zone to living in the Danger Zone, around waist-high. Even at 100 miles per hour, hitters can square you up in the middle of the zone. Megill has been there more this month, because of his heavy use and the attendant decline in his sheer stuff.

    There was little Pat Murphy could have done to prevent or mitigate this. It's part-and-parcel with the role Megill took on after Williams was traded last December—a role Megill was eager to take. Being a closer means taking the ball to shut it down when your team has a lead to protect and just a few outs to get. It's not the hardest job in the majors, but it comes with some very real burdens. Megill isn't especially well-suited to them. That's ok. He's a great reliever, and a good fit for the demands of the job within any given game. We're seeing the physical grind of the gig catch up to him a bit this month, but as long as the team continues to have breathing room and can ease off the gas in the second half of September, Megill should be ready to slam the door again come the postseason.

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    The solution is simple, but requires bravery on the part of Pat Murphy; flip-flop Abner and Trevor. 

    MAKE ABNER THE CLOSER.

    Abner's stuff is much more electric, much more difficult to hit. 

    There is too much riding on this season to value loyalty over prudence. 

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    It always seems like a guessing game with relievers down the stretch and in the playoffs (I hope we make it). Hader and Devin gave up gut-wrenchers. Jeffress was worn down one particular year when I wished we'd used Knebel more often. Heck, I still remember Axford blowing coughing up 1-0 lead at Cincinnati in late September of 2013 to end our faint playoff hopes that year.

    This year, we've got Trevor Megill (30-for-36 in save opportunities), Shelby Miller (10-for-15) and Abner Uribe (2-for-4). It's up to the rest of the team to give them chances and Murphy to push the right buttons. I pray they all stay healthy.

    Megill struggles when he can't throw his breaking ball for strikes. When it's on, he's extremely effective. 

    He's still throwing 100 with his fastball, but you'll get lit up if that's the only pitch you can throw for strikes in the majors.

    He's a solid closer.

    “…but as long as the team continues to have breathing room and can ease off the gas in the second half of September, Megill should be ready to slam the door again come the postseason.”

    that is the issue. Can the Brewers maintain their lead over the Cubs?

    I believe it will be close, and will require use of a closer often.

    3 hours ago, izzi said:

    The solution is simple, but requires bravery on the part of Pat Murphy; flip-flop Abner and Trevor. 

    MAKE ABNER THE CLOSER.

    Abner's stuff is much more electric, much more difficult to hit. 

    There is too much riding on this season to value loyalty over prudence. 

    Murph is a results-oriented manager. If Megill blows a third consecutive save opportunity, I believe he will make that switch.

    4 hours ago, izzi said:

    The solution is simple, but requires bravery on the part of Pat Murphy; flip-flop Abner and Trevor. 

    MAKE ABNER THE CLOSER.

    Abner's stuff is much more electric, much more difficult to hit. 

    There is too much riding on this season to value loyalty over prudence. 

    Megill and Uribe are two peas on a pod.  It all comes down to control of their breaking pitch.  Last year, Uribe didn't have it (even a bit early this season).  Now Megill is struggling with it. Whomever is controlling their breaking pitch will get it done. 

    Honestly... pretty much the same story as Devin Williams. 

    Well done article. There were short periods of time in seasons when Hoffman, Axford, Hader and Williams were automatic holds but they were short-lived. No matter who the closer is, I never feel comfortable going into the 9th with a one run lead. 

    6 hours ago, Bratwithspecialsauce said:

    Megill struggles when he can't throw his breaking ball for strikes. When it's on, he's extremely effective. 

    He's still throwing 100 with his fastball, but you'll get lit up if that's the only pitch you can throw for strikes in the majors.

    He's a solid closer.

    I agree. I don’t recall Megill throwing one curve ball for a called strike yesterday. When a two pitch pitcher can’t throw one of them for a strike, hitters will sit on the other. Even if the other one is a 100+ mph heater, MLB hitters will get the barrel on the ball and it will leave the bat with great velocity…. The question is “does Megill and/or Chris Hook know why the curve ball is not working and can they fix it?”

    Trevor has been used 9 times from July 4 to July 24 plus the times he warmed up and wasn't even used.  Megill is not a bad closer unless you use him to much which may be the case right now. Megill's ERA is 2.54 today even counting yesterday. 

    Oh by the way Megill has pitched 46 innings this year // Misiorowski 38.2 to put things in perspective. 

    Brewers need to put a quick end to his overuse. 

    1 hour ago, Bob K said:

    I agree. I don’t recall Megill throwing one curve ball for a called strike yesterday. When a two pitch pitcher can’t throw one of them for a strike, hitters will sit on the other. Even if the other one is a 100+ mph heater, MLB hitters will get the barrel on the ball and it will leave the bat with great velocity…. The question is “does Megill and/or Chris Hook know why the curve ball is not working and can they fix it?”

    In addition, since his two are Curve/FB its easy to identify which is which.   That's why the FB/slider combos are usually better or more difficult to hit.  

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    25 minutes ago, Brian said:

    Oh by the way Megill has pitched 46 innings this year // Misiorowski 38.2 to put things in perspective. 

    Brewers need to put a quick end to his overuse. 

    Megill has the lowest IP among the top 15 MLB relievers in saves, he isn't being overused.

    Misio also has 63.1 IP in AAA this year for a total of 112 IP combined, though I'm not sure what the relevance is between a 23 year old starting pitching prospect and a 31 year old one inning closer.

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    15 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

    Megill has the lowest IP among the top 15 MLB relievers in saves, he isn't being overused.

    Misio also has 63.1 IP in AAA this year for a total of 112 IP combined, though I'm not sure what the relevance is between a 23 year old starting pitching prospect and a 31 year old one inning closer.

    You were right about IP but Carlos Estevez, Robert Suarez, Jeff Hoffman, Emilio Pepan, Ryan Helsley, Pete Fairbanks, Raisel Iglesias, Kenley Jansen, Emmanuel Clase and Kyle Finnegan, pitched a few more innings but all have higher ERA's than Trevor Megill.  My point was he needs a fragging break!  He is way more important than your computer comparisons and then end up loosing him for the year. 

    4 hours ago, homer said:

    The blown save on Friday was a lot of bad luck. The three balls put in play were not hit very hard at all. One of which was a grounder he took off the shin and another Lockridge misplayed. 

    Agree re Friday. Lockridge certainly didn't help him with a poor decision on what should've been a single and if you look at the INF hit it was a grounder to 2B if not touched. The WP of course is on him.

    Sunday, I don't know if it was not throwing breaking balls for strikes, or simply staying mostly with the FB on purpose. There were a LOT of balls fouled off, and watching Chapmans' first handful of ABs since a long layoff, there's no way I'd expect him to hit the hard FB but unfortunately it needed to be at the top of the zone & wasn't.

    To answer the question at the top, no I don't think at this time it's cause for concern. He'll certainly have some time off after throwing 30 pitches yesterday, or whatever it was.

    15 minutes ago, Brian said:

    You were right about IP but Carlos Estevez, Robert Suarez, Jeff Hoffman, Emilio Pepan, Ryan Helsley, Pete Fairbanks, Raisel Iglesias, Kenley Jansen, Emmanuel Clase and Kyle Finnegan, pitched a few more innings but all have higher ERA's than Trevor Megill.  My point was he needs a fragging break!  He is way more important than your empty comparisons and then end up loosing him for the year. 

    I don't think he's been overused. He certainly was stressed yesterday due to a lot of pitches fouled off in addition to the baserunners. But in August he had five days off in a row, then back-to-back appearances, then four days off before working 3 out of the last 4. Before yesterday, he's had only one inning over 20 pitches (22) since just after July 4th.

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    5 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

    I don't think he's been overused. He certainly was stressed yesterday due to a lot of pitches fouled off in addition to the baserunners. But in August he had five days off in a row, then back-to-back appearances, then four days off before working 3 out of the last 4. Before yesterday, he's had only one inning over 20 pitches (22) since just after July 4th.

    He is worked to frequently when his #'s start dropping like velo & balls and strikes, hits. Just all data-driven analysis. IMO. If you talking about Megill. It shouldn't be that hard to spot.  It's an individual thing not one size fits all. Murphy didn't use him tonight which was the right thing to do. 

    3 minutes ago, Brian said:

    He is worked to frequently when his #'s start dropping like velo & balls and strikes, hits. Just all data-driven analysis. IMO. If you talking about Megill. It shouldn't be that hard to spot. Everyone is to hung up on comparison's. It's an individual thing. 

    But his max velo Sunday was 101. And he walked one, and IMO it wasn't from being wild but rather trying to get Lee to chase out of the zone & if not, than face the RHH. The strategy didn't work. Closers sometimes don't close out games. If anything I'd pan him for the WP Friday, and not going higher with the FB to Chapman leading off the 9th on Sunday.

    I just don't think the recent blown saves have anything to do with being overworked.

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    8 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

    But his max velo Sunday was 101. And he walked one, and IMO it wasn't from being wild but rather trying to get Lee to chase out of the zone & if not, than face the RHH. The strategy didn't work. Closers sometimes don't close out games. If anything I'd pan him for the WP Friday, and not going higher with the FB to Chapman leading off the 9th on Sunday.

    I just don't think the recent blown saves have anything to do with being overworked.

    We will agree to disagree then. Was he used again tonight.  No he was not.

    8 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

    Ok that's cool.

    But I'm sure you know, no reliever is going to be used the day after throwing 34 pitches.

    You are 100% correct,  that is exactly what I've been trying to say for the past 18 hours.  If you have read the whole thread sveum was the one saying: and I (Quote) from his post, "Megill has the lowest IP among the top 15 MLB relievers in saves, he isn't being overused."  Now sveum is suddenly singing a different tune. That post is what started this whole chain of crap. 

    2 hours ago, Brian said:

    If you have read the whole thread sveum was the one saying: and I (Quote) from his post, "Megill has the lowest IP among the top 15 MLB relievers in saves, he isn't being overused."  Now sveum is suddenly singing a different tune. That post is what started this whole chain of crap. 

    Where did I sing a different tune?

    My belief remains that Megill throwing the fewest IP among top closers means it’s hard to argue he’s been overused.

    Trevor is 5th on the team in games, and 6th in IP. If he’s been overused than so have Uribe, Megill, Mears, Anderson, and Ashby who all have more appearances and/or innings than Megill.

    9 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

    Where did I sing a different tune?

    My belief remains that Megill throwing the fewest IP among top closers means it’s hard to argue he’s been overused.

    Trevor is 5th on the team in games, and 6th in IP. If he’s been overused than so have Uribe, Megill, Mears, Anderson, and Ashby who all have more appearances and/or innings than Megill.

    My apology then, I did not mean to do that if I misinterpreted a post. 

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