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No need to be so smug. He's not a good defender, and he's not a very good offensive player. He's a one-tool guy (speed), with a career OBP below .340. He steals bases pretty well, but he's not of much use if he's only getting a chance to steal in < 34% of his total PA. Because his CWS teammates like/d him, objective observation is to be done away with? He had one good season (2003), and DM somehow managed to pawn him off on the White Sox for one of the game's best sluggers (obv. Vizcaino was included, too) even after an horrific 2004 campaign.
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No need to be so smug. He's not a good defender, and he's not a very good offensive player. He's a one-tool guy (speed), with a career OBP below .340. He steals bases pretty well, but he's not of much use if he's only getting a chance to steal in < 34% of his total PA. Because his CWS teammates like/d him, objective observation is to be done away with? He had one good season (2003), and DM somehow managed to pawn him off on the White Sox for one of the game's best sluggers (obv. Vizcaino was included, too) even after an horrific 2004 campaign.
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No need to be so smug. He's not a good defender, and he's not a very good offensive player. He's a one-tool guy (speed), with a career OBP below .340. He steals bases pretty well, but he's not of much use if he's only getting a chance to steal in < 34% of his total PA. Because his CWS teammates like/d him, objective observation is to be done away with? He had one good season (2003), and DM somehow managed to pawn him off on the White Sox for one of the game's best sluggers (obv. Vizcaino was included, too) even after an horrific 2004 campaign.
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At a local branch of US Bank, one of the pictured 'big seller' employees is John Estrada. Looks like him, and I bet even he would take the first pitch of a given at-bat.
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But Laporta is and was a very good fielder at Firstbase as well... he is being moved because Firstbase is blocked so a Move back over to first for him is not a DH type move...its because he would be he is no longer blocked at first after shipping fielder off... I honestly don't know either way on LaPorta... so I'll bow to you on that one. I do have my questions about him at 1B though, given that he's barely 5'11". Braun would be a move because he is a bad fielder over to first...but that Move would make him a PLUS fielder... it would not be like having Ortiz or Dimiti Young playing First...he would be just as good as Overbay was at first...IMO I don't know about "plus" - just my opinion, obviously... but he would, in all likelihood, make the least negative impact defensively at 1B.
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But what you're describing here is completely different from why Braun or LaPorta or Fielder are mentioned as 1B ideas... Pujols is & was a very good fielder, and is one of the few examples iirc of a guy being shifted to 1B not due to being a poor fielder.
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my laser holding friend--back to the point that started this exchange. we agree that cv may have a bright future with the crew. do you think starting him in the pen or bouncing him back and forth could hamper him. i do, that's why i brought up that bit about capellan. I honestly don't think the bullpen-rotation shuffle has/had any effect on Villy. I think you can see that pretty clearly from 2007 - but that's just mho. The Thing is with CV... he does not have the stuff that our other pitchers did..... so the Bullpen was the option for him... Vargas has better stuff than CV...well at least a better Fastball...and I think his breaking ball is better to... Bush is #3 or so Ceiling guy... and while he does not have an overpowering Fastball tops out at 91... he does have decent other pitches and has excellent k/bb rate I just can't go on pure stuff for pitchers - and Vargas is a perfect example of why. Imho Vargas negates any advantage he may (or may not) have on his FB by nibbling so much. After that, Villy's CU is a better second pitch than anything Vargas has (again, just mho). Beyond that, I'd guess the differences (if any) in other pitches is pretty much negligible. I don't think any lack of stuff (perceived or real) played a role in Villy being in the bullpen last year.
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Fair enough. I don't remember ever hearing that he was their top (pitching) prospect, but those darn facts seem to stand in my way here...
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anakin--look it up. after the 2004 season in which kolb had 39 saves and a 2.98 era, he was traded for the braves top pitching prospect, jose capellan who had started 60 of 65 games in the minors. My point had nothing to do with how he was acquired (& I know what the deal was), just that if he truly were a top-shelf SP prospect, no organization worth its salt is going to part with that for just a RP - I don't care how many saves a guy had in one season.
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"could be moved to 1B" is NL-ese for "DH"
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There's no way a RP like Kolb lands you a top-flight SP prospect on his own.
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Now with CV you guys are basing this Ceiling projection on 12 total starts..... he never did much in the minors... No, I'm not just using MLB numbers. And as trwi mentioned, he's done plenty in the minors to warrant praise. I'd say his numbers in MLB thus far have reinforced the success he had in the minors. As previously mentioned, I only think his BBs from last year are a concern - there's not much else to worry about, imo, with Carlos.
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White Sox with Podsednik starting: 30-25 .545 Without Podsednik starting: 42-65 .393 That's nothing but coincidence and probably at most an example of how poor their OF depth was that year.
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White Sox with Podsednik starting: 30-25 .545 Without Podsednik starting: 42-65 .393 That's nothing but coincidence and probably at most an example of how poor their OF depth was that year.
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White Sox with Podsednik starting: 30-25 .545 Without Podsednik starting: 42-65 .393 That's nothing but coincidence and probably at most an example of how poor their OF depth was that year.
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his total inning pitched this year should be no more than 150-160. he pitched 123 innings last year. He pitched 182 1/3 in 2006... you think he shouldn't throw around 200 this year? The only reason I think he may start in the bullpen is to showcase one or two of Vargas/Bush/Cappy for a potential trade.
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Except for his detailing & rims shops.
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Yes, and I also don't expect Damon or Abreu to rebound much v. LHP. Matsui, iirc, has been relatively strong v. LHP in his MLB time.
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The Fielder example I can't disagree with... but if you're talking Mench--Abreu / Mench--Damon v. LHP, there's just no contest imho. Fwiw, Giambi will likely get the bulk of the DH time in 2008. Another guy that's much better against RHP than LHP... just sayin'!
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I don't think that anyone who experienced that game, real-time, can say with any amount of honesty that they didn't think it was a plunk-job. I remember when McClung was announced... against a RH batter... in the 8th/Turnbow inning... my only thought was, 'Well, we're plunking Pujols.' Perhaps there are those out there who can legitimately say they didn't see that coming, but I just can't say I saw it or see it as anything other than bean-time. But, by waiting until the game was on the line, late, to extract his pound of flesh at the expense of St. Louis's best hitter... GSP, only you could work in some Shakespeare whilst discussing our Brewers. Well done! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif
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Sorry I was wrong it was Weiters... Geez, how did you ever confuse "Vitters" for "Weiters"?! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif Thanks for the specific example (Brackman), but I still wonder just how frequent this is. I'll have to do my part & stay informed about prospects & upcoming drafts. Seeing a Brackman fall so far certainly lines up with what you've been describing, but how often does that really happen (perhaps not as extreme as a 10-15 guy falling to the bottom of rd. 1)? Is your position that it happens moreso in the later rounds? (hence your Pence & LaPorta examples)
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Well it is real...because in the 2007 Draft there were some teams ahead of the Cubs that were thinking of drafting Vitters....but because of signability he fell to the Cubs who had no problems with signability even though they took until the deadline to sign him.... Interesting. I certainly don't doubt whether or not this kind of thing happens - as it clearly does. What I'm wondering about is the frequency of the occurrence. If it happens here and there, but sort of inherently with the 'big' prospects, it might stand out as happening more in memory (just human nature to recall something like that, imo) than it does in the actual drafts. I wonder if the Fielder 'reach' was a signability issue or not, just for one example, because I know Jack Z. & his crew are big on drafting the super-tools - in this case, extreme high-end power. The LaPorta pick... does that have to do with signability of other guys, or just that raw power super-tool again (plus the relative fast-track to MLB that most expect for Matt)? EDIT: but teams like the Brewers and Reds and Pirates have not gone with the safer more expensive prospects, but have reached more. ... I think Mark rogers was even considered to be a slight risk pick as well....even though most people felt he had the best stuff in the draft... they felt Hughes and Bailey were "safer" but more expensive picks... That's mostly just in fun - yay irony! - but it also does make me wonder about the frequency. If the Reds weren't scared off by Bailey's price tag, perhaps the guys falling to more wealthy teams is happening less frequently than it seems? Honest question.
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These Top 5 guys drop because they want huge deals...and they drop to the Yankees and pay them A ton of money...and they do this for some of these kids that get drafted in the 10th round...that probably would be first round picks the next season......thats how you restock fast...just pay the draft picks a lot of money and go after the ones that have signability problems. How much truth is there to this? For the time being, I'll just substitute "big money teams" for "Yankees", since sticking this on one organization is really unfair. So to refine my question, how much truth is there that the big money teams just prey on the signability concern guys, and how much is this just perception being taken for reality?
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Sheets - Type A Free Agent?
TooLiveBrew replied to MillerParkSouth's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
From that list, barring any major injuries, I think you can strike Penny & Lackey. I just can't see any way (obv. short of injury) their teams don't exercise those options. Sheets looks pretty good on that list imo, injuries or not. Save Sabathia, there isn't one guy I'd rather have for a mid- to long-term contract than Ben. Kinda puts his injuries in perspective - at least his shoulder & arm are healthy! -
Sheets - Type A Free Agent?
TooLiveBrew replied to MillerParkSouth's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Interesting question. It'd be tempting to deal him at the deadline if he's healthy & pitching well then, but had missed enough time prior that his status as a Type A was a long-shot or worse. However, that's a lot of 'ifs'. My hunch is that if he misses enough time to make him slip to Type B, there's not going to be a good haul coming back our way in terms of a trade... plus teams might feel better just letting him play out the season & trying to sign him as a FA, since he wouldn't cost them a pick - not to mention they'd have a better idea of his health by waiting.