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  1. That and the fact that Melvin probably didn't wanna give a utility player a 2-year-deal, which I can't say I blame him for. He gave Counsell a similar two year deal. Maybe he learned his lesson, but I think that JHJ brings more to the table.
  2. I'd give Bill Hall a NRI in a heartbeat, but it's doubtful to happen. There is probably a better chance that Felipe Lopez is brought to camp. The problem being that neither of these two has played much SS recently, likely due to the fact that they are not very capable there anymore.
  3. What is McGehee's arby number estimated to be (I remember seeing $3 million possibly?)? I don't see how he would be worth much more than $2 MM next year, but if they go through the process, there is no doubt that he will get more.
  4. I wanted Furcal big time at the deadline, but I'm not sure that I want to sign him in this market. He's probably going to command 2 years for $12-15 million. At this point, it's looking like either Yuni/Gonzalez unless there is a trade. If it's me, I go with Yuni. As for a backup, I wouldn't be surprised to see Counsell brought back the way things have shaken out. I'd prefer either Jack Wilson or maybe even Omar Vizquel for that role. Renteria is out there as well. Bottom line, I'm not giving any of these possible backup guys more than a year, but these sorts are getting multi-year deals so far.
  5. It's this simple: Reyes at SS + Ramirez at 3B in '12 >>>>>> Ramirez at SS + anyone else the Marlins used at 3B in '11 No arguments here. However, the prospect of the Marlins signing Reyes a few months ago would have been a head scratcher. Don't get me wrong, Hanley has been a very good player, but I think he is overrated because he was often popping up on the 'one player to start a team lists' before this year. Offensively his career stats form a perfect bell curve. On paper, he should be a top 5 third basemen, but what if he repeats last season? This article echoes a lot of my concerns. http://www.hardballtimes....-the-2011-season-reboot/
  6. Who are these 'others' that Olney speaks of? I'm assuming representatives of other players. The next week should be interesting to say the least. I just hope that the Brewers don't enter into a bad deal for an aging player on the rebound from Prince (Ramirez, Rollins, etc.). Maybe Doug will surprise us again and get someone off the radar in a trade.
  7. A bit higher than I expected, but I'm disappointed that the Brewers couldn't keep him.
  8. Since we are discussing overlooked 3rd basemen from the 60's I'll raise the Boyer/Santo arguments with Dick Allen. Allen didn't play third long (apparently he was kind of the Ryan Braun of his day), but he guy was an absolute beast in an era where pitching dominated. Time to give his due.
  9. Absolutely no to Rollins for me. I'll tell you one thing, Hardy should fire his agent. He would have been the second best shortstop out there, and personally I don't think there is much of a drop-off from Reyes. "Person" seems to be implying him simply not posting his 4th-consecutive .900+ OPS season in 2010, & being injured for a large part of 2011 = a "decline" Well, it is a foreboding trend. He also loses a lot of his luster if he's not a shortstop. He is already poor defensively at short, as he gets older and/or injuries pile up, he will only get worse. Obviously the Marlins recognized this and are moving him. I will not argue the fact that he put up some of the great offensive years for a SS in baseball history, but I think he will be hard pressed to ever get back to that level. Look at what happened to a guy like Nomar (though 'chemicals' may have been involved with that case), I wouldn't be shocked to see a similar decline for Ramirez. Everybody bags on Prince for his size and poor defense, but he never misses a game. Ramirez isn't exactly svelte, he now has an injury history and has been about as bad as Prince defensively (granted at a 'premium' position).
  10. Obviously the next week will be very telling. I agree with the notion that everyone is waiting for Pujols to sign- in the end, I still think that he stays in St. Louis. As for Prince, I think that we are seeing the same thing develop as what happened last off-season in that there is limited interest, with the added twist of limited money. If the Brewers can step up to the plate and Prince can swallow a measure of pride, I think that there is at least a chance that something can be worked out. Obviously, the major flaw in this analysis is the 'all it takes is one team' thing. However, the longer things go on, the more payroll that will be burned. The teams that this wouldn't affect (those with monopoly money) don't seem to be in the running as of yet. Perhaps if the Brewers were to offer the 5/125 range deal with an out after two years, Prince would bite in the hope that the monopoly money Eastern seaboard teams will have a need after 2013. The primary issue (besides Boras)with this idea is that Prince seems to be a very prideful man. It's probably doubtful that he would take a deal for 80-100 million less total than Pujols. At the same time, contracts north of $125MM don't exactly grow on trees.
  11. Cuddyer seems like a type of player that Dean Taylor would have signed. Namely a fringe player on a good team or the best player on a horrible team. I see nothing to get excited about, he kind of smacks of a rich man's Sean Berry actually. He's old and will likely be on the decline, hits right handed, hasn't played 3B much in recent years, and I don't think that he will put up numbers much better than Gamel at 1B (if given a full season). Let the Twins or someone else overpay.
  12. I see my lame attempt at humor was noticed. I'm serious though, no more multi year deals to middle relievers. On a small scale, that Riske deal was absolutely horrible, one of the worst deals in team history.
  13. Just scanned mlbtraderumors and Baltimore has expressed 'interest' now, though they warned fans about not getting their hopes up. It seems like everybody in these sweepstakes is in the same boat as the Brewers- limited payroll.
  14. From what I remember, the Veteran's Committee has made a lot of selections in the past. I remember guys like Ernie Lombardi getting in during the 80's/90's. I know that there are a lot of sketchy old time players in the HOF due to the fact that they were cronies of Frankie Frisch who headed this thing 50 or 60 years ago, at least this is what I read somewhere.
  15. Its not coming from some random decision to give CF a premium, it comes from years of defensive data. From guys who played both positions. An average CF is about 10 runs better than an average LF. (Sorry, that was the first blog post I came about, and it only has 1 seasons worth of data, but you can get the jist of it from there).Thanks for the link. I just gave it a quick read over lunch. I don't understand the whole runs/wins concept, but it appears that the CF thing is based on the number of balls historically hit to the position. Is that correct?
  16. I'd be on board with this if we aren't talking a riske multi year deal. I'm also all about getting Saito back into the fold.
  17. If anybody signs Ramirez or Rollins (unless it's the Phillies) to more than a three year deal, they should be committed. I tend to think that a three year deal for either of these guys will likely explode in someone's face. As for Fielder, I don't get the love for Toronto some here seem to have. I still hate them from the American League and the Molitor thing.
  18. I will not argue that Ramirez has been star caliber in the past, but people are overlooking his recent decline. Ramirez hasn't approached his career splits for a few years and was absolutely brutal last year. Yes, I also think that his value has been overstated by WAR due to the fact that he is a shortstop. He has always been a sieve at shortstop (it's tough to find anyone this side of Jose Valentin with a lower fielding pct.). As for the Brewers acquiring him, I've said before that I wouldn't take him for 'free' to be on the hook for that contract. I stand by that.
  19. I'm not sure who's more overrated down there now, Ramirez or Reyes. I'd say Ramirez, but it's close.
  20. What a horrible deal, but about what I expected. Glad that it wasn't the Brewers.
  21. I still think we add Aram and Rollins. The future still is very bright. I disagree. In my view, Prince > both of them. As for Toronto, I'm not sure why anyone would want to play there. The place makes Wisconsin look like a tax haven.
  22. Although if you were bidding a player, you probably wouldn't be making that public knowledge. Point taken, but I don't see how Melvin could sign a guy that he admittedly knew little about and didn't scout.
  23. No way Haas was better than Morris in '83. From what I remember, Haas went down in late July/early August (about the same time the team went to seed). He was good that year, but not C.C. good or as valuable as a guy who threw nearly 300 innings with roughly the same ERA. I believe that County was considered to be a slight pitchers park on average, while a RH pitching in Detroit, definitely had some challenges with the short RF- kind of like a lefty in Fenway. I think in large part that explains Morris' relatively high career ERA. Bottom line, the biggest problem that I have with WAR in a historical context is that it overrates defense (while using some sketchy metrics) and also overvalues certain positions, most specifically CF (which isn't THAT hard to play, unless you are in a huge stadium like Coors, Petco or a place with a deep center field like Houston. Historically, many parks were bandboxes, and with less ground to cover, center isn't that difficult to play. I can see placing a premium on catching and shortstop, but I've always thought that the premium placed on CF is unwarranted. Such wide disparities in WAR from website to website also cause me to question it's validity in general.
  24. Case in point: In 1983, Morris lead the league with 293 IP in 37 starts, had a 3.34 ERA, a league leading 232 Ks and a 3.4 WAR. That year, Moose Haas threw 179 IP in 25 starts, had a 3.27 ERA and 75 Ks and a 3.9 WAR. I believe that was the year that Moose went 13-3? I thought that a pitcher's win/loss record was virtually meaningless.
  25. Jack Morris wasn't that good ever except for 1 game. Which one- the no hitter or the '91 World Series? http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif
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