much much thanks to everyone here for all the help. well, the three months i've been working out regularly, the protein and creatine has made a visible difference, so there's a good part of me that wants to stick with what's worked so far. The creatine has helped a lot with energy working out, and i'd kinda like to keep the bulk through the summer (all water or not), but i figure on cutting it out completely in the wintertime (though keep working for strength so it doesn't all turn into pudge). I will start giving my mucles more time off to recover now, though, as suggested, so I don't plateau. I don't think I'm allowing the muscles enough recovery time, anyway. A day/week of no creatine and all cardio-no weights is likely in order. I'm starting to think the best idea of all since i'm trying to balance out fat loss and muscle gain is not to rely on tape measuring but to just go out and get a bodyfat% calipers like And That suggests. Then from there adjust my routine to whether or not I'm over 10-12% bodyfat, to whether I amp up protein and heavier weights for bulk, or if I should focus on strength and cardio--hopefully with that I'll be able to maintain the proper balance of weightloss and muscle gain--still eat healthy, though, of course. Thanks again, this is great stuff.