I agree the Brewers are probably a team that will be building towards a 85 win total every year. Some years we will get guys having good years or make a big mid-season acquisition and be up around 90 wins and other years we will have injuries or big under performing guys and be around 80 wins. Even this year we would have been projected to be around 85 wins if we had signed CC. Cc over Looper is big, but we probably would have traded Cameron and not signed Looper or Hoffman. Edit: I was going to say 85 wins seems a tad high, but it looks like Russ just used it as an example. It shouldn't be surprising if the Cardinals and Cubs are projected with more wins for 2010 than the Brewers. The Cardinals and Brewers were projected with equal wins or us with one win better than the Cardinals before the 2009 season. We are probably projected to be worse at SS, CF, and all our rotation spots right now than we were before the start of the 2009 season. Bush, Parra, and Gallardo were all worse than expected so I would think their 2010 projections to be worse than their 2009 projections. Escobar/Gomez 2010 will have a lower projection that Hardy/Cameron 2009. The only spots where I think we will get higher projections will be 1B, LF and possibly 3B. Who we pick up to fill our rotation will be the one place we can improve. Looper was expected to be at least average so we will need somebody better than average.