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I knew I could count on you! And yes, hangdog is excellent!

I propose a takeover, and I fully believe we can pull it off. How? By the use of my most hated of all things; the dreaded buzzwords. I say that WE should control them. WE should introduce new ones as WE see fit, all the while basking in the knowledge that WE are in control of the masses. If nothing else, it would make for a grand little sociology experiment. Over the past few days, I've had the opportunity to use "snivel" and "sniveling" on more than one occasion, mostly on HBT. I'm convinced that if a few of you will use some form of the same word in other choice places it won't take long at all for it to magically appear all over the Interwebs. Seeing as how it's almost the first of the month, perhaps we could arrange to change it on the first of every month. Knowing this crew, I'm sure we could come up with some real beauties. As a matter of fact, I'd almost be willing to bet that we could completely make up NEW words, plant them properly, and watch them take on lives of their own. So, what say you? Anyone interested? This could be a lot of fun.

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Thanks, bullox. I thought it was something to do with BA who does seem to be absent from the booth rather often.

What current issues? I've been way out of the loop.

I like Roenicke, or at least I think I'd like him if I knew him personally, and I do like the aggressive play on the base paths but I'm beginning to have my doubts about him as manager. Not because of his decisions, although many are questionable, but because of the poor fundamental play we're seeing. I may be wrong, and I'm sure I'll be corrected if I am, but it seems to me that the managers that have enjoyed long term, consistent success have always fielded teams that played good, rock solid, fundamental baseball. How many games have we given away due to lapses in fundamentals and how many games have we failed to take away, when given ample opportunity, due to lapses in fundamentals? These guys are killin' me. just killin' me.

With all the inter-league stuff next year maybe Gamel's bat plays as DH?

Nicely done, all the way around. The last line is pure gold.

According to brewers.com his innings have been limited all year and he was indeed gassed in the sixth. "Thornburg, who had not pitched in 10 days because of a suspension for brawling and a decision by Brewers officials to control his innings before a promotion to Triple-A, admitted he was getting tired in the sixth." http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120619&content_id=33565802&notebook_id=33566132&vkey=notebook_mil&c_id=mil

I think Selig may have stepped in if it had been a player from any other team but being a Brewer there was no way he was going to. Sometimes "friends in high places" isn't such a good thing.

Swamp People. Willie Edwards (the blonde kid with the missing front toof on the promos) became my hero when he got trapped on the bank by a big alligator. Willie calmly pulled out his pocket knife, jumped on the beasts back and stabbed it in the head, killing it. Deadliest Catch. Those guys are men amongst men. Hatfields & McCoys miniseries. Excellent. I found myself sympathetic to the Hatfields more so than the McCoys after watching it. (Please note the proper use of "more so").

The fact that the US Postal Service has discontinued First Class Mail International Parcel as an online option bugs me intensely. The service is still available, but one must now physically go to the Post Office and pay for the postage as well as fill out all of the customs forms by hand. The least expensive online option is now Priority Mail International which is of course much more expensive. The parts that I make and routinely send out weigh just under 2 pounds. First Class International was about $18 to send them just about anywhere. Priority Mail International is right at $40. My International customers aren't thrilled by this; not even a little bit, and it is costing me business. If I go to the Post Office and jump through all their hoops it takes an hour out of my day and takes a gallon of gasoline. I obviously can't do that for free. If I add a "handling charge" that's even remotely fair, the cost becomes such that Priority Mail International is the much better option, which is of course what the USPS is counting on. Unfortunately, in their greed and shortsightedness, they fail to realize that their profit on $18 was much greater than their profit is now on $0. Boo, I say! BOOOOOOOOO!

Most of the voices in my head say defense. There are a couple of dissenters but the rest of us routinely ignore those two anyways.

splitter, The problem there (for me) is that as it stands now Pete Rose is well represented at the hall w/o being enshrined. The fact that he is not enshrined may well be future generations' only clue as to what happened, or perhaps prompt them to ask why he isn't enshrined, which serves my particular purpose very well. If he's allowed to be fully enshrined, a visitor to the hall in the future would likely be under the impression that nothing ever happened, or at the very least, that it was not really a big deal. In effect, Pete will indeed have gotten a pass. I agree that Pete should have been left on the ballot, but he wasn't. He received a harsh punishment for a huge transgression. I just don't see where now undoing what many feel is the lion's share of that punishment sends any other message than "he gets a pass". Honestly, up until not too long ago, I wanted to see him in; then I started thinking about my grandchildren, teaching them fair play and life lessons in general. We have clearly become a society wherein far too many people get away with far too many things simply because they're an athlete, or a celebrity, or a politician, or rich, or beautiful, etc. etc. etc. on and on and on. High school (and even college!) grads that can't read? Or if they can read at all, it's at a 3rd or 4th grade level? Don't know simple multiplication tables? Committing assaults, both physical and sexual? Murders? Running up millions in bills and defaulting? Numerous drug arrests, yet they get what amounts to slaps on the wrist? Let the cops catch me or you with dope as many times as they've caught Lindsey Lohan or Robert Downey Jr and our butts will be in jail for a good long time. It's just... wrong. And of course keeping Rose out of the hall won't fix any of that, but to now turn around and let him in will most assuredly help it to stay broken.

See the logical flaw? I see a logical flaw, but it isn't mine. I compared bank robbery (a very serious crime) to gambling (MLB's MOST serious crime) and you didn't care for that comparison. Now you want to compare jaywalking (possibly the LEAST serious crime of all) to gambling (still MLB's MOST serious crime)? Wow. Do you see the logical flaw? I think if Pete Rose jaywalks, Pete Rose should be given the appropriate citation for jaywalking... as opposed to giving him a pass because some others have been given a pass or because he was a tremendous ballplayer in his day. If Pete Rose is convicted of OWI, he should be punished accordingly as opposed to giving him a pass because some others have been given a pass or because he was a tremendous ballplayer in his day. From DocBucky's post #35: As is well known amongst players, coaches, media, management, and even fans alike, the following is posted in every MLB locker room: Rule 21(d): BETTING ON BALL GAMES. Any player, umpire, or club official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has no duty to perform shall be declared ineligible for one year. Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible. Pete did what he did, knowing what the consequences would be if he got caught. He did get caught and he was punished accordingly... now some want to give Pete a pass because some others have been given a pass or because he was a tremendous ballplayer in his day.

Robbing a bank and betting on baseball are pretty different from each other IMO Yes... but sort of no. We're talking about "MLB law" here and gambling is MLB's Cardinal Sin. Number one, to the best of my knowledge. Like I said, I personally don't care that Rose gambled but MLB certainly does and Rose & everyone else knew it/ knows it. My contention is this: If Rose is let in, it would send the message that "If one is a good enough athlete, one can get away with violating even the Cardinal Rule." Can you honestly say that that isn't the message that it would send? And if so, what message does it send, if any?

What does that have to do at all with his previous post? I would think that it's pretty self-explanatory. I quoted his post and asked him a question in an attempt to find out if he believes that I should be able to get away with a transgression simply because others have gotten away with transgressions, or if he believes only that Pete Rose should get away with his transgressions because others have gotten away with transgressions. I personally find it very black & white. Rules are rules, and violating them deserves consequences. There's no gray area here for me. Obviously, some here feel differently. I'd like to know why, as well as what qualifies someone to be above the rules. Good enough athlete appears to make the list. What else? Good looking enough? Smart enough? Rich enough?

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And I'm not sure exactly what consequences Rose is suffering. Hmmmm.... what consequences indeed? Yes, he's not enshrined in the Hall of Fame Oh... those consequences. I guess I could argue with you but you seem to be doing just fine arguing with yourself. Except for all the spit-ballers and illegal drug users that are/will be in there So I could go rob a bank today, and you'd advocate I should go free because others have gotten away with the same, or even more egregious, crimes?

I didn't get to see the whole game and only saw one IBB to Braun. They tried pitching to him until the count was 3-1. At that point and as poorly as Kershaw was pitching, I can't help but wonder if they would have IBB'ed Braun regardless of what Aoki did in front of him.

I think it's great that the hall has a lot of Rose acknowledgement without enshrinement. It helps serve the purpose that matters most to me in situations such as this, which is life lessons to our youngsters. I'd like to be able to take my grandsons to the hall and show them that if you break the rules, no matter how good you are, there are consequences.

Letting him in would be like saying that if you're a good enough athlete (or perhaps pretty enough) that you can do anything. Break any rules and never suffer any consequences.

No. Never.

I agree completely and feel the same way. Well said. Also, I think you have to add Cirillo to the list of fondly remembered Brewers from that bleak era. Absolutely agree with this.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the 2 people in the lower left corner are high.