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If Love sucks, this Packers roster gets fun bad for the next two seasons and GB can then draft their next franchise quarterback in the next 1-2 seasons and restock an aging roster quickly - likely under new management/coaching. However, if he's good, this roster is still good enough to build a contending team around and will likely have a pretty team-friendly longterm deal in place with Love to avoid significant salary cap problems to fill holes over the next 4-5 seasons. At this point it's really a no-lose situation, as there were many other ways the Rodgers/Packers saga could have ended that put Green Bay in worse shape (both short and longterm outlooks).
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I think adding JSN would open up the game for the other receivers. That theory would've been alot easier to know for sure had JSN actually played meaningful snaps last season without Olave and Wilson in the same receiving corps as him and Harrison, Jr., too. I think the counter argument to this is it's tough to tell how much of JSN's 2021 production was a direct result of being the possession receiver in an absolutely loaded receiver room at OSU with top 10 first round talents like Olave/Wilson/Harrison Jr. occupying all sorts of coverage on the outside, and a quarterback with the potential to be a #1 overall pick throwing them the ball.
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I've got a ton of hesitancy using a mid-1st rounder on a guy with average measurables who had a monster Rose Bowl game (not a CFP game, so in essence meaningless) in early 2022 because the #1 and #2 receivers on that team opted out of that game to prepare for last season's draft and Stroud just fed him the ball all game long against soft zone coverages by inferior defenders. Then, he plays in just 3 games last season while dealing with a lingering hamstring injury. To me Smith-Njigba profiles as a 2nd round pick that will get overdrafted in a thin year. I'd rather go different position at #13 and then see if a WR like Johnston is available late round 1 or early round 2 and try to use available draft capital to pick him to fill out the WR room.
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between TE and WR, the Packers simply don't have enough bodies at those positions at present - so I think those positions are the priority in rounds 1-2. Throw in Edge and I think their 1st two picks are dedicated to those spots. Going to have another OL drafted mid rounds to maintain depth, but the current roster is thin enough at other positions where OL is an afterthought for this year's draft. If the line sucks/gets decimated by cuts and injuries this season, then you pick a new franchise cornerstone tackle next year.
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There's also still a ton of time between now and when that 5th year option kicking in to get Love signed to what would likely be a pretty team-friendly extension and make his 2024 cap hit really reasonable and set the organization up to add significant talent without salary cap concerns...kind of the same thing they did with Rodgers in the middle of his 1st year as a starter after the Favre saga was done and over with. Worst case scenario would be Love stinking up the joint and not deserving an extension - then they just have a $20M quarterback scuffling through a 2023-2024 rebuild phase that likely results in a new Packer front office and a new franchise qb picked in one of the next two drafts.
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Not really, but I think Silverstein layed it out informally in an article yesterday pretty well without seeing final/final trade details. Basically, the Packers have enough cap space to get all of their current draft picks signed and not much else. If they want to add anyone in free agency they'd have to get pretty creative with what's left of their roster to make it happen. Realistically, they're not going to be players in free agency, and I'd rather they use 2023 as a retool year with Love to see if he warrants an initial extension, then have a much cleaner cap situation headed into 2024 after all of this season's dead money falls off the books.
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I will have my popcorn ready to enjoy watching the train wreck if the Jets' management entertains benching a healthy Rodgers at any point, no matter what their record is in effort to avoid losing their 2024 1st rounder. They don't yet realize they no longer run the show - Rodgers now does. I think if they don't get off to a good start, they're all going to be looking for work elsewhere...this is what happens when you use a 2nd overall pick on a franchise qb you are giving up on after year 2.
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They also play in a loaded conference and aren't even the favorites to win their own division, plus their out of division schedule includes NFC East and AFC West opponents this year. They are going to regret this move, but im not feeling sorry for them
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If Rodgers takes >65% of their snaps, next year's pick the Packers get back is another 1st, plus the 2nd and moving up two slots with to #13 for this year's 1st? This is a pretty solid return I'd think even fans wanting to retroactively deal Rodgers to the 2022 Broncos wanted, and it also clears any longterm cap ramifactions of GB's books after 2023.
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People really have a hard time grasping at how teams can have vastly different draft boards and how different GMs factor in team position needs or even rule out picking guys at certain positions if it's a weak class for that spot. Just because all the drafniks' boards wind up looking eerily similar right before the draft starts doesn't mean they're right - frankly if they were more right they'd be in a front office somewhere. Particularly in a draft year that is considered relatively thin, there are going to be a lot of head scratchers throughout this draft with people wondering why "so and so" didn't get picked instead - guys are going to fly up and down boards last minute depending on how teams pick.
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Suter wouldn't have been anywhere close to entering the game in the 8th inning today, so what Bush and Guerra did has no bearing on the fact the Raptor is right where he should be - cashing checks for a last place team that doesn't have anyone else better to be their mop up/low leverage innings eater...He'll get all the appearances his 33-yr old noodle arm can handle this season, since most of the relief innings Rockies pitchers log are going to be low leverage given the fact they'll be losing a helluva lot of games. I echo earlier poster sentiment to this thread - take the "Article" title off, because it's not an article...it's a thread. Looking forward to the upcoming "article" on why the Cooper Hummel trade was a franchise-altering move as well right after the next game he gets 2 hits and jumps that batting average way up over 0.100, too.
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It's fantastic and long overdue, IMO - particularly with having multiple wildcard teams from each league in the postseason. They had to balance the schedule out in effort to get the best teams in the playoffs regardless of their geographic locations. I don't care if the teams suck, I hated having to watch 9-10 Brewers games played at empty Pirates' or Reds' ballparks - play more games against different teams for fans to see other players more frequently!
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This actually makes alot of sense given what happened with Favre retiring/unretiring after just 1 season with the Jets, and leaving Woody with a front office/coaching staff in major flux right after it due to firings. If true, that proposed trade package would be solid compensation headed back to GB knowing the 2nd is in the top 45 picks and with the expectation that GB will probably have a mid to high 1st round pick in 2024 assuming Love isn't instantly a HOF starter in 2023. If the Jets are making the 2024 1st conditional on Rodgers playing more than just 1 more season, the Packers should hold firm on demanding it no matter what and wait as other teams keep kicking the tires on a trade.
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It's just an unfortunate play all around that started with a bad decision by Cruz to take off for home on a batted ball right towards him and the 3B - basically the one spot on the field where he shouldn't try to score from.
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With the current rule in place for plays at the plate, I don't think they can just try to run through home plate without sliding.
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The 49ers would probably try to swing a trade of Lance initially to pick up some other team's 1st to send to GB for Rodgers, possibly include a player from a loaded roster as part of a trade - or just include a future 1st and a pile of this year's 3rds as a trade package. It's less likely than the Jets based on the legwork already done, but it's not that far-fetched. If the 49ers haven't recently shown the ability to be uber aggressive with trades, I'd tend to agree with you that it's just baseless rumors...and the fact they inquired about trading for Rodgers two offseasons ago...honestly if I was an aging QB looking for 1 more solid shot at a ring that'd be the 1st roster I'd want to be traded into.
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Yep, and he's likely done for the season...I get the homeplate sliding rule was put into effect largely to protect catchers from injury, but this play is one rare reason why I wish a baserunner didn't have to slide on a play at the plate. At minimum if you slide into home feet first it shouldn't be with the intent of trying to touch the plate with your feet first - just way too much that you could potentially catch a cleat on weird and severely injure yourself going straight for the plate. Much safer play to actually slide head first or try a feet first slide off to the side while trying to sneak your hand over the plate. Its a shame for Cruz and the Pirates.
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All I can think of is the tape of him getting completely shut down against UGA - TCU was overmatched all over the field, but Johnston couldn't get open at all with Georgia playing bump and run most of the game (when it actually mattered). Johnston was nursing a bum ankle most of last season, too - so maybe there's some concern on the health front. Tools and athletic ability appear to be all there - it could simply be a bunch of other players rocketing up boards based on who's picking and what perceived needs they have, too. Keep in mind that the last few drafts have seen a ton of WR's taken early, so it may be one of those years where teams that just recently picked a receiver in round 1 have other roster holes that need filling, and a team like the Packers could have an ideal fit fall into their lap.
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That's ridiculous - I went through a similar ordeal a couple years ago, but was successful using the process our lender had in place with having an assessment done by a licensed assessor of their choosing. If I remember right, that assessment fee was between $300-$500 - our lender gave us the option to either pay it in full or tack it onto the load principle, which we promptly paid in full. Getting PMI off our monthly books was definitely a plus - it's helped us not be too impacted by increasing homeowners insurance and property tax increases that our escrow payments have tried to keep up with. This time of year is always a fun one waiting for the annual escrow analysis letter from the lender stating how much more our monthly mortgage payment is going to be...smh.
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There are plenty of layers in this post that make it delicious given various thread histories on this board even if the spelling error on Keston's name wasn't intentional...but if it was intentional it just makes it gold. well done!
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Fear The Chorizo replied to hawing's topic in Off-Topic Forum
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Yes, I think we'll get conditional piece(s) - but I don't think any conditional pieces should or will go the other direction...unless the Jets pony up alot more than what's being discussed as likely trade value upfront. That's what an earlier post in this thread insinuated - Jets are wanting 2025 draft compensation back from the Packers if Rodgers retires after the 2023 season as part of this trade. If they won't move from that position, then I'd hope the Packers should demand more from them in the trade package upfront because the initial deal should be based on multiple Rodgers seasons in New York. If the Jets truly are asking this, then I'd hope GB is insisting on their 2023 1st at this point as part of the trade. Cheezwizhead's post or I'm not saying it's fact, but it's one of those rumors floating out there.
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I'd say the return for Favre was more to avoid him going directly to the Vikings the same year the Jets acquired him. The performance-based conditions were kind of unlikely, but oh well. That scenario also occurred after the guy retired/unretired right at the start of training camp. If the 2023 draft comes and goes before the trade gets done, then Gute can just insist on the Jets' 2024 1st and 2nd if the Jets are adamant about tying 2025 return draft pick compensation to this trade. In the end, I agree that a deal gets done before this year's draft, it'll be good for both sides, and it won't carry multiple layers of contingency/conditional picks potentially heading both directions.
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The proposed 2023 2nd and 2024 2nd that could become a 1st seems like decent value via trade for 1 season of Rodgers even with his current contract. In this scenario, if the Jets are adamant of future pick compensation in the event Rodgers only plays 1 more season and won't move off that hill, then GB should be insisting on their 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, and a conditional 2024 pick based on how the Jets perform next season because Rodgers' value shifts from just one season to multiple years. The Packers have dealt with contingencies and unnecessary drama related to Rodgers over the past 3-4 seasons, so I'm sure Gute is just flat out done with it all at this point and is right to tell the Jets to pound sand asking for future draft pick compensation based on the whims of what Rodgers feels like doing 12 months from now - unless he gets trade value based on 2+ seasons of Rodgers upfront...dealing with drama is part of the drill with a veteran QB when he's in your organization, but in no way should there be any additional draft pick-related compensation headed to the Jets from Green Bay based on what ARod decides to do after a 2023 season that he plays for a different organization. If the Jets want Rodgers, they should want all that comes with him.
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It's pretty common for a step back to happen after winning back to back MVPs for a quarterback - particularly when you break the thumb on your throwing hand and you lose your best (and arguably the best) veteran WR to free agency and replace him with rookies who don't know yet what they're doing. That's independent of age. 38 yr old 2021 Rodgers is worth more than a mid 1st round pick via trade no matter what's left on his contract - 39 yr old Rodgers isn't as valuable, but the exact calculus depends on how much of last season's scuffles were due to his thumb compared to father time finally snatching away Rodgers' ability to take over a game. I think it's a combination of the two, and the uncertainty of it is a big reason why a trade hasn't happened yet. I also don't the the Packers absolutely HAVE to get 2023 draft compensation in a trade for Rodgers, and because of that they may stick to their guns long enough for the Jets to sweat a bit more than they're doing right now. There's zero need for the Packers, Rodgers, or for that matter the Jets to rush into a trade, even though all sides know it's going to eventually happen. Thinking it's more of a case of not wanting to be the first to get antsy.
