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  1. Jackson, Winfield, Schmidt, Murphy, Carlton, Seaver, Dawson, Brett, Fisk, Yount, Molitor, Murray, Raines, Carter, Ryan, Perez I'll give you Jackson, Winfield, Brett, Schmidt, and maybe Murray. (I wasn't really considering pitchers when I said top 5) But Yount? Fisk? Carter? I know those guys played premium defensive positions, but they weren't near as "feared" as Rice in the batters box. Molitor played as a DH for over half his career, and had a lower OPS. The only thing he has on Rice is longevity. Same with Raines (who incidentally, I would vote "yes" on)
  2. If we have 11 games left, and we're 10 out of the WC, and we're behind 7 teams, there's still going to be people that think we might pull it out. Such is the hope of any sports fan I guess.
  3. That's why it's called the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Really Good Players. See, but when you quoted me, you didn't quote the entire sentence, where I said "I think, the HOF standards are a tad too high", which would qualify it as nothing more than my opinion. When a guy like Jim Rice, who was clearly a top 5 player of his generation is nothing more than a borderline "maybe" type guy, it's my thinking that the standards are too high.
  4. Well, Murphy's got a BFW number of 10.5, but that's lower due to his somewhat shaky defense. Batter/Fielder wins is nothing more than a variation on Total Baseball's "Total Player Ranking" in which it tries (as best they can) to quantify defense statistically, using all possible metrics (zone rating, range factor, and fielding percentage) Of course, we all know that those are still very imperfect quantifiers of defense, so take that for what it's worth. Anywhoo, it's just the compilation of Batting runs, Fielding runs, and Stolen base runs, and then using the rule of 10 (or whatever the exact # would have been in a given season) to figure out wins above an average player (not a replacement player) By using these metrics though, Bill Mazeroski (despite a sub .700 career OPS) clearly deserves his spot in the Hall.
  5. As soon as you open the HOF for Jim Rice, you might as well induct Cecil Cooper, Don Mattingly and Dale Murphy. Take those three players stats in a 6-year time period and it's hard to find how they couldn't be in the Hall. Allow me to go all "stat geek" here, and refute this (as best I can) In a 17 year career, Coop had a career OPS of .803, with a Batter/Fielder Wins # of 8.8 (above average, not replacement) Only 5 years of 20 + homers, and 4 years of 100 RBI. Mattingly had a 14 year career with a career OPS of .829, and a BFW # of 15.9 5 years with 20 + homers, and 5 years of 100 + RBI. Neither Mattingly or Cooper reached 2200 hits or 300 homeruns. Rice (all stated above) in a 15 year career had 2452 hits, a career OPS of .854, had 20 or more homers 11 times (more than double Mattingly or Cooper) and had 100 RBI 8 times (3 more than Mattingly) and 382 bombs. And a BFW # of 18.6. To me, my own personal "cutoff line" is right around 20, but I'm not a voter, and it's not my hall, so that doesn't really matter. The point I'm making though, is that in my opinion, you can't use Mattingly and Cooper to make a case why Rice shouldn't be in.
  6. Honestly, i think i'd wouldn't vote for him...especially since i think there will be a number of corner outfielder guys in the next 10 years who will eclipse his numbers...making his case look even weaker... To play devil's advocate, should Rice be punished for what people AFTER him do? Not to mention that even though Rice played in a hitter's park, he played in an era that wasn't NEARLY as offense friendly as what player are witnessing now.
  7. Definately yes on Raines from me!
  8. We're doing this discussion again?!?! Haven't there already been a half dozen threads on this topic?
  9. I'd say yes, because the 80's weren't a very offense dominated decade, and for the simple fact that I think the HOF standards are just a tad bit too high.
  10. I agree on the Ben in/out call tonight. Either way, keeping him in, or going with 'Bow, I wouldn't have disagreed. The way it was, it worked out. For tonight, Ned's a genious.
  11. Ok, I know it's after the fact, and he got Biggio out, but why waste 2 pitches on pitchouts with 2 outs? If Tavarez steals, he steals. You get out Biggio, and it doesn't matter what base is on, but if you artificially allow Biggio to get ahead in the count, you're just increasing his odds of a 2 out hit. Ned.........what's up with this one?
  12. If anyone still believes there's a shot at the wildcard, I might actually admit that we're *starting* to get into the territory of "must win" games. The shot is slim at best, and if it's there, can't be losing too many games to teams ahead of us.
  13. OK, who is the Astros manager, and why did he send his clsoer out when his team is down three runs? To keep the game from getting out of hand. You can't give up games when you're tied for the WC lead with 40 games to go.
  14. This team showed a lot of heart tonight.
  15. If Clemens ends up with even 15 wins, he's gotta win the Cy. Love him or hate him, a 1.anything ERA is simply astounding in this day and age.
  16. Three best catchers: 1. Johnny Bench 2. Yogi Berra 3. Mike Piazza ----- Gabby Hartnett! Bill Dickey Johhny Bench
  17. I can see not putting Hart in the lineup vs. Clemens, but batting Magruder 2nd? That's just plain ol' poor decision making there.
  18. All you guys that are still around, can you answer the rhetorical question just put did this team play to the last out did they try their best through thick and thin did they give you any reason tonight to have any iota of pride being a brewer fan heart does not exist... i agree... at least on this team it starts from the top... ned what did you do to get a postive of of this game; what did you do Yes to all of them, except that heart doesn't exist on this team. I'd really love to know how you know that. You don't EVER get tired of asking the same questions, do you?
  19. Being in the "stathead" crowd, I'll admit that "heart" or "grit" exist, yet in an unquantifiable state. I'll admit it readily. What kills me, is day in and day out, people on here and other forums claiming as fact that "this team has no heart" or "there's no fight in this team" Ain't a guy here (aside from the lucky few who work in the organization) who know how much effort is being given, or how much they "want to win". No one here knows what's in the mind of those guys, and shouldn't be claiming to know. "This team has no heart" is a blanket statement, and a ridiculous one at that. So we lost to the Cardinals bench. This is freakin' baseball. 162 games. GOOD teams LOSE to BAD teams now and then. It happens. And we're not even a GOOD team, we're a *mediocre* team. It doesn't mean we "threw in the towel" or "didn't care", or (sigh) "have no heart". It means it was one of those days, that are BOUND to happen over a 162 game schedule. I swear to god I've read on here that of our 118 games this year, about 80 of them were "must win" games, and that if they didn't win the "must win" game in question, then the team has (yeah, you guessed it) NO HEART! I don't know how hard Bill Hall is trying. Or Damian Miller, or Chad Moeller. I'm not going to CLAIM to know. And I won't claim to know how important "heart" is in determining wins and losses, because nobody knows, let alone li'l ol' me.
  20. As far as the rather large transaction thread goes, I can see wanting all relevant transactions in one thread (especially when they're in a lumped together group of related transactions) but for a good period of time, the thread wasn't labelled as such, and I can easily see how someone would NOT know that discussion of Davis and Capellan being called up would have been contained within. Eventually, of course, those moves were put into the thread title, but until then, unless someone read through 90+ posts, there would have been no way of knowing those transactions had already been posted without putting up a new thread.
  21. Wow. I just looked outside to make sure the sky is falling. It's not.
  22. Rickie da man. If we're going to fall out of the WC race (which appears likely) hopefully a run at the ROY will still keep a lot of interest in the team. Of course, a few callups would help too.
  23. EDIT, I just re-read the quote and now I'm really confused, doesn't a homerun only count the same as two doubles in SLG? - not twice as much? If you want to get REALLY techinical, the truly hardcore runs created formula that assigns a specific run value to every statistical happening has a HR worth 1.41 runs, and a double worth .74 runs, the last time it was updated. I'll look for it and see if I remember correctly.
  24. I didn't claim it was or wasn't impossible, I only said "some people claim........." Sexson was a quick example that came to mind. I'm sure more often than not, most batters tend to stay static in that regard. I'm not going to do the research, because I'm not interested THAT much to do the footwork. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif Point being, if I found one, I'm sure I could find more. Of course, there's always exceptions to the rule. The only thing I'm trying to say is it CAN happen that a batter over his career can improve his plate discipline.
  25. I don't think he got THAT much better just because. He practiced and got better. It didn't just magically happen. You're confirming my point. A lot of people say that plate discipline, batting eye, whatever, just *is*. That the numbers generated by those attributes are pretty much set in stone. Richie's a case that shows the opposite. HOWEVER he did it, he improved his ability to take walks, and in doing so, increased his overall value as an offensive contributor.
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