1992casey

I think they did that for a while. For years, the deadline was June 15.

Note the starting catcher.

Sunday is a business day during the season, and I seem to recall Sunday trade deadlines in the past. I wonder if there's something unusual besides July 31 falling on a Sunday.

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[igt-2012][game-setup][logo]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-logos/pirates.png[/logo][game-info][h1]July 30 | 6:10 P.M.[/h1][h2]Pirates (52-49) | Brewers (45-56)[/h2][h3]FSWI | WTMJ 620[/h3][/game-info][logo]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-logos/brewers.png[/logo][/game-setup][pitching-photos]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-pitcher-photos/opponents/pirates_taillon-jameson-01.jpghttp://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-pitcher-photos/brewers/brewers_anderson-chase-16.jpg[/pitching-photos][game-matchup][divclass=away][pitcher]Jameson Taillon[/pitcher][h2]2-1, 3.83 ERA, 1.20 WHIP[/h2][h3]Versus Brewers | Game Log[/h3][h3]Taillon continued to pound the strike zone Sunday against the Phillies, but he gave up four runs on eight hits (two homers) over six innings and took a no-decision. The rookie has 31 strikeouts and only five walks this season.[/h3][/divclass][divclass=home][pitcher]Chase Anderson[/pitcher][h2]5-10, 5.40 ERA, 1.45 WHIP[/h2][h3]Versus Pirates | Game Log[/h3][h3]Anderson pitched five innings for the first time since June 13 when he got the win in a five-inning, two-run performance on Monday against the Diamondbacks.[/h3][/divclass][starting-lineup][divclass=away] 1B David Freese ® RF Gregory Polanco (L) CF Andrew McCutchen ® LF Starling Marte ® 3B Jung Ho Kang ® C Francisco Cervelli ® 2B Josh Harrison ® SS Jordy Mercer ® RHP Jameson Taillon ®[/divclass][divclass=home] SS Jonathan Villar (S) 2B Scooter Gennett (L) 3B Hernán Pérez ® 1B Chris Carter ® RF Kirk Nieuwenhuis (L) C Martín Maldonado ® LF Ramon Flores (L) CF Keon Broxton ® RHP Chase Anderson ®[/divclass][/starting-lineup][/game-matchup][game-links][h3][chat]BrewerFan Chat[/chat] | MLB Gameday[/h3][/game-links][/igt-2012]

I see jerichoholicninja's point. When we talk about games below .500, we subtract wins from losses. When we talk about games behind the next team in the standings, that number is cut in half. It'd be confusing if we weren't used to it.

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This is the Villar quote that I'm finding: As far as addressing the question in more detail, we don't know specifically what was asked or if there were followup questions. All we really know is that those three sentences were quoted. He may or may not have said more.

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Craig said that the first inning was "out of the Twilight Zone." He doesn't attribute the fielding errors to carelessness. Villar coming out of the game was due to the "baserunning situation." Jonathan understands why he was taken out.

You can't give performance bonuses for things like steals. Situations like Villar's would demonstrate exactly why bonuses for that kind of stat are prohibited. As far as Jonathan himself, I don't think he's selfish or anything like that. I think it's simply a situation where his instincts kick in faster than his brain.

No, Craig was in the front office. I think he may have instructed in spring training.

They've been talking a lot about it now. Craig and Jonathan have been having a conversation. Nobody looks pissed or anything. Matt and Bill are suggesting that there are things that can be explained on the bench during a game that might not be as effective otherwise.

It sounds that way from reading the thread. I just tuned in, so I was wondering if the announcers said anything.

Was any reason given for Villar's exit?

[igt-2012][game-setup][logo]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-logos/diamondbacks.png[/logo][game-info][h1]July 27 | 7:10 P.M.[/h1][h2]D’backs (41-59) | Brewers (43-55)[/h2][h3]FSWI | WTMJ 620[/h3][/game-info][logo]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-logos/brewers1.png[/logo][/game-setup][pitching-photos]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-pitcher-photos/opponents/diamondbacks_bradley-archie-01.jpghttp://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-pitcher-photos/brewers/brewers_nelson-jimmy-11.jpg[/pitching-photos][game-matchup][divclass=away][pitcher]Archie Bradley[/pitcher][h2]3-6, 4.44 ERA, 1.45 WHIP[/h2][h3]Game Log[/h3][h3]All three of the runs Bradley allowed in his last start came in the first inning. He settled down after that to throw four scoreless frames. Command remains an issue. In his last start, he walked a season-high five, and he has walked 30 in his past 57[space][/space]1/3 innings.[/h3][/divclass][divclass=home][pitcher]Jimmy Nelson[/pitcher][h2]6-8, 3.40 ERA, 1.37 WHIP[/h2][h3]Versus D’Backs | Game Log[/h3][h3]Nelson pitched decently in picking up the loss Friday against the Cubs at Miller Park. But he gave up a leadoff homer in the first and was haunted by walks and his own shaky fielding.[/h3][/divclass][starting-lineup][divclass=away] LF Michael Bourn (L) 2B Phil Gosselin ® SS Jean Segura ® 1B Paul Goldschmidt ® C Welington Castillo ® RF Yasmany Tomas ® CF Chris Owings ® 3B Brandon Drury ® RHP Archie Bradley ®[/divclass][divclass=home] SS Jonathan Villar (S) 2B Scooter Gennett (L) LF Ryan Braun ® C Jonathan Lucroy ® 1B Chris Carter ® RF Kirk Nieuwenhuis (L) 3B Hernan Perez ® CF Keon Broxton ® RHP Jimmy Nelson ®[/divclass][/starting-lineup][/game-matchup][game-links][h3][chat]BrewerFan Chat[/chat] | MLB Gameday[/h3][/game-links][/igt-2012]

I don't have a problem with the concept behind the quality start, but I have a problem with the stat's name. Maybe it should be called an adequate start.

Well, it's a "quality start" at this point.

We've talked about this in the Transactions forum. Catchers — especially starting catchers — rarely change hands at the trade deadline. Like others here, I'd love to reap the benefits of a Lucroy trade. But given the circumstances, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't happen until the off-season.

You could tell there were an unusual number of fans cheering for the Diamondbacks, and they seemed to be near the third base dugout. I was surprised that Chip Hale brought Shipley out for the sixth inning. He was at a point where he had been successful, and he was at 92 pitches after five. Hindsight is 20/20, but that would have been a great time to leave well enough alone.

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Lovely uniforms for the D'backs tonight… not.

I accidently tapped a link on espn.com, and it took me to porn. The porn site broke the back button, so I couldn't use that to get back to the page I wanted to be on. This is a huge reason why people have ad blockers. I don't have an aggressive ad blocker on my iPad. Methinks I'm going to get one.

Addison doesn't intersect with Waveland. Sorry, but I couldn't resist. Carry on.