1992casey

Alex is out of options and was outrighted twice last year. I suppose he could accept another outright, but I think he'd either be released or elect free agency.

And how long before the posters show up saying he's too short and doesn't throw hard enough to be successful? I would think that ship has sailed. At this point, I'd be wondering about opponents "figuring him out" or thinking about the kinds of numbers that homer brought up.

[igt-2012][game-setup][logo]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-logos/nationals.png[/logo][game-info][h1]June 26 | 1:10 P.M.[/h1][h2]Nationals (43-32) | Brewers (34-40)[/h2][h3]FSWI | WTMJ 620, WRRD 1510[/h3][/game-info][logo]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-logos/brewers.png[/logo][/game-setup][pitching-photos]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-pitcher-photos/opponents/nationals_roark-tanner-01.jpghttp://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-pitcher-photos/brewers/brewers_nelson-jimmy-19.jpg[/pitching-photos][game-matchup][divclass=away][pitcher]Tanner Roark[/pitcher][h2]6-5, 3.18 ERA, 1.22 WHIP[/h2][h3]Versus Brewers | Game Log[/h3][h3]Roark is a late replacement for Stephen Strasburg, who is missing his second consecutive start due to back discomfort. Roark is taking his regular turn instead of going on Monday. In his last start, he took the loss against the Dodgers, giving up three runs in 7⅓ innings.[/h3][/divclass][divclass=home][pitcher]Jimmy Nelson[/pitcher][h2]5-6, 3.80 ERA, 1.36 WHIP[/h2][h3]Versus Nationals | Game Log[/h3][h3]Nelson has done his best work this season at Miller Park, where he owns a 2.62 ERA, a .238 opponents’ average, and a ratio of 2.44 strikeouts per walk.[/h3][/divclass][starting-lineup][divclass=away] CF Ben Revere (L) LF Jayson Werth ® RF Bryce Harper (L) 2B Daniel Murphy (L) 3B Anthony Rendon ® 1B Clint Robinson (L) SS Stephen Drew (L) C José Lobatón (S) RHP Tanner Roark ®[/divclass][divclass=home] SS Jonathan Villar (S) 2B Scooter Gennett (L) LF Ryan Braun ® C Jonathan Lucroy ® 1B Chris Carter ® CF Kirk Nieuwenhuis (L) 3B Aaron Hill ® RF Ramón Flores (L) RHP Jimmy Nelson ®[/divclass][/starting-lineup][/game-matchup][game-links][h3][chat]BrewerFan Chat[/chat] | MLB Gameday[/h3][/game-links][/igt-2012]

I don't recall the Brewers ever starting a draft pick above A ball. Rob Ellis started out in the majors in 1971.

He could take both jobs in the booth.

Ray's going to be starting out at Brevard County.

Milwaukee Bears vs. Homestead Grays today.

I think they're OK if Conforto doesn't go on the disabled list. If a DL stay becomes necessary, they might have to rescind the demotion and put him on the Major League club's list.

His name takes up a lot of space on the standard jerseys too. Maybe he should use "Kirk N."

The only thing I like is the size of the lettering. You can actually read player names from the Loge level. Otherwise, the front is too bare, the color is odd, and the style of the lettering is off.

Here's the McCalvy article: http://m.brewers.mlb.com/news/article/186094270/brewers-finalize-deal-with-corey-ray He's going to do a press conference and batting practice to coincide with today's game.

[igt-2012][game-setup][logo]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-logos/nationals.png[/logo][game-info][h1]June 25 | 3:10 P.M.[/h1][h2]Nationals (43-31) | Brewers (33-40)[/h2][h3]FSWI | WTMJ 620, WRRD 1510[/h3][/game-info][logo]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-logos/brewers.png[/logo][/game-setup][pitching-photos]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-pitcher-photos/opponents/nationals_gonzalez-gio-01.jpghttp://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-pitcher-photos/brewers/brewers_garza-matt-11.jpg[/pitching-photos][game-matchup][divclass=away][pitcher]Gio Gonzalez[/pitcher][h2]3-6, 4.25 ERA, 1.33 WHIP[/h2][h3]Versus Brewers | Game Log[/h3][h3]After getting off to a strong start this season, Gonzalez has struggled in June. He is 0-3 with a 5.84 ERA and a 1.50 WHIP in four starts this month. His ERA has increased from 1.86 on May 18 to 4.25 entering this start.[/h3][/divclass][divclass=home][pitcher]Matt Garza[/pitcher][h2]0-0, 0.90 ERA, 1.40 WHIP[/h2][h3]Versus Nationals | Game Log[/h3][h3]Following two-plus months on the DL, Garza has allowed one earned run in his first 10 innings. He’s coming off six scoreless innings against the Dodgers, an outing cut short when he was pulled for a pinch hitter in the seventh inning.[/h3][/divclass][starting-lineup][divclass=away] CF Ben Revere (L) LF Jayson Werth ® RF Bryce Harper (L) 2B Daniel Murphy (L) C Wilson Ramos ® 1B Ryan Zimmerman ® 3B Anthony Rendon ® SS Danny Espinoza (S) LHP Gio Gonzalez (L)[/divclass][divclass=home] SS Jonathan Villar (S) 3B Aaron Hill ® LF Ryan Braun ® C Jonathan Lucroy ® 1B Chris Carter ® RF Hernan Perez ® 2B Scooter Gennett (L) CF Keon Broxton ® RHP Matt Garza ®[/divclass][/starting-lineup][/game-matchup][game-links][h3][chat]BrewerFan Chat[/chat] | MLB Gameday[/h3][/game-links][/igt-2012]

When I think of trading Aaron Hill, I think of the time the Brewers traded for Jerry Hairston Jr. The Brewers didn't give up much to get him (Erik Komatsu). But it seems that contending teams are giving up more these days in order to shore themselves up for the stretch.

I think the fact that Kissimmee is inland helps considerably.

When it rains hard, drivers need to slow down. I was driving from suburban Chicago to Milwaukee Wednesday night. Between O'Hare and somewhere south of Gurnee, it was raining really, really hard. Most vehicles were traveling as if there wasn't any rain at all, well over 70mph. I finally found a group of cars that was moving at about 55mph, so I drove with them. 45–50 would have been better, and I would have been fine if the 85th percentile speed were even less than that. But whatever. The bottom line is that one's speed should be proportional to visibility. When you can't see, you need to slow down. I'd rather take a little longer to reach my destination safely than risk not getting there at all.

[igt-2012][game-setup][logo]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-logos/nationals.png[/logo][game-info][h1]June 24 | 7:10 P.M.[/h1][h2]Nationals (43-30) | Brewers (32-40)[/h2][h3]FSWI | WTMJ 620[/h3][/game-info][logo]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-logos/brewers1.png[/logo][/game-setup][pitching-photos]http://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-pitcher-photos/opponents/nationals_scherzer-max-02.jpghttp://forum.brewerfan.net/igt/2016-pitcher-photos/brewers/brewers_davies-zach-21.jpg[/pitching-photos][game-matchup][divclass=away][pitcher]Max Scherzer[/pitcher][h2]8-4, 3.29 ERA, 0.98 WHIP[/h2][h3]Versus Brewers | Game Log[/h3][h3]In his most recent start in Miller Park, Scherzer flirted with perfection. He retired the first 18 Brewers last June before his no-hitter was broken up in the seventh. It was the only hit he allowed to go along with 16 strikeouts.[/h3][/divclass][divclass=home][pitcher]Zach Davies[/pitcher][h2]5-3, 3.62 ERA, 1.15 WHIP[/h2][h3]Game Log[/h3][h3]Davies continues to pitch above his modest stature, dealing seven innings of five-hit, one-run ball at Dodger Stadium. He lowered his ERA to 2.34 in his past five starts, and he’s held opponents to a .484 OPS in those games.[/h3][/divclass][starting-lineup][divclass=away] LF Ben Revere (L) CF Michael Taylor ® RF Bryce Harper (L) 2B Daniel Murphy (L) C Wilson Ramos ® 1B Ryan Zimmerman ® 3B Anthony Rendon ® SS Danny Espinosa (S) RHP Max Scherzer ®[/divclass][divclass=home] SS Jonathan Villar (S) 2B Scooter Gennett (L) C Jonathan Lucroy ® 1B Chris Carter ® CF Kirk Nieuwenhuis (L) 3B Aaron Hill ® RF Ramón Flores (L) LF Alex Presley (L) RHP Zach Davies ®[/divclass][/starting-lineup][/game-matchup][game-links][h3][chat]BrewerFan Chat[/chat] | MLB Gameday[/h3][/game-links][/igt-2012]

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BA and I have different definitions of "hit hard."

If they'd have said they were skipping Chase because his last two starts were shaky sucked, that would made sense. I didn't hear the report, so I don't know if "young" was the reporter's word or if it came from the team. I don't think Davies really needs to skip a start. He'd be on an innings limit, but he seems to be on a pace to reach that limit without exceeding it.

I wouldn't be against skipping a Nelson start.

I'd dispute "young," but it makes sense to skip someone with three of eight days off.

The statement in question isn't racist for reasons that others have pointed out. Cuba is a mixed race society, much like the US. The majority of its people are white. Significant minorities are African, native, and mixed race. And a small minority is Asian. Some might see the statement as bigoted. But I'd simply call it a faulty generalization that reilly effectively debunked. Please be aware that we're teetering around the boundaries of some of the guidelines in Fan Forum Etiquette. As long as people continue to play nice, this topic can remain open.

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The Mets would be foolish not to trade one of their starters for a legitimate offensive upgrade. That hitter helps the team everyday, one starter helps once every five days. I don't remember the data used to demonstrate this anymore, but apparently, a starting pitcher who goes 200 innings offers a slightly larger contribution than an everyday offensive player.

Junior is 31. I doubt that we'd have to worry too much about an innings limit. The concern is generally for pitchers who are 26 or younger. Up until about age 25, players are still developing physically.