Well remember we will have some addition by subtraction. Gagne, Riske and Turnbow combined for a line of 95 IP, 116 H, 64 ER, 6.06 ERA, 60 BB, 70 K, 1.85 WHIP. Assuming Riske is healthy next year and we replace the rest of those innings with something anywhere near league average I'd say we are doing ok. Take those 3 out and Torres since he won't be returning and our basic bullpen put up a line of... 297.3 IP, 252 H, 106 ER, 3.21 ERA, 121 BB, 264 K, 1.25 WHIP. What we do to replace that 175 IP we lost obviously goes a large way towards deciding how the bullpen is but the core isn't too bad. Take Mota out of the picture and the core looks even better, there are some decent arms in there just not enough of them just yet.