Knee jerk reaction much? Counsell has a 60 win team in the playoff hunt with less than 2 weeks to play.. yeah, let's get rid of him. This is speaking to everyone ... from now on can we please take a deep breath before posting the first thing that comes to mind on this thread? Some of us only have the gameday up and need explanations of what happened so we come here and it gets a little tiresome to have to read a lot of emotional responses. Just a thought. It is just your opinion that CC is the reason we have more wins than some random computer model thought we "should" have had. Is Counsell out there hitting HRs? Has CC been shutting teams out on the mound? Reminds me of all the people around here who thought RRR was automatically a great manager because we won 96 games, and then he goes on to give 3 playoff starts to Marcum and put Mark Kotsay in CF. Has CC ever, and I mean once ever, held a player accountable for a horrible AB with the tying/winning run on 3rd with less than 2 outs? Now I know almost every major manager or coach are equally worthless, but every once in a while you have a winner. We have been lucky around here with guys like Bo Ryan, Barry Alvarez, Mike Holmgren and of course Vince Lombardi. Did these winners tolerate mental mistakes and foolish play? No, they did not. CC just lets it happen Ok, so were you just aggressively pushing a point home or do you really want Craig Counsell dismissed after the game for the mistake Shaw made? I need clarification before I continue.