Brewerguy, I guess that wasn't really thought out, did you forget about the recent trades he made w/ the Padres (Linebrink), Pirates (Torres), Indians (Sabathia), Giants (Durham), twice w/ the Rays (Gross, McClung) and Mets (Mota)? I could go on and on, but I think you get the point. Anyways, back on subject, looking at the records I'm very impressed with what Ken Macha did in Oakland, winning 2 division titles and a .568 winning percentage in four seasons w/ a small market team is no joke. I think if they did hire him, they would definitely talk to Kendall and others who played for him first, I don't think they will just ignore the remarks the players made about him. Also, I agree w/ Doug Melvin that Managers are usually better the second time around, after the have a chance to learn from there mistakes. So I guess what I'm saying is that I am could get on board w/ Macha as our manager. I don't know enough about other managers, but I've always liked Davey Johnson and would be excited to see him brought in.